Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

Hi Tessiturians,

I'm wondering if someone can confirm this for me please?

I usually bank donations in a Controlled Batch but am having problems closing the batch when money has been put "on-account". An error message pops up saying that the batch is out of balance even though the 'received amount' is the same in the 'adjust total' area.  

The only way for me to close this Controlled Batch is to delete the transaction that contains the on-account money.

Therefore, is it a general rule that to put money 'on-account', an uncontrolled batch is always used? Or is there a way around this?

Thanking everyone in advance,

Katherine

 

  • Hi Katherine,

    Someone can probably explain this better but when you use money that is "on account" in a controlled batch you are basically creating a zero adjustment meaning that even though you are moving money around the transaction table is not recording any new transaction amount. (I'm sure that can be explained better)
    In order to close a controlled batch with "on account" transactions you actually need to remove the on account amount from the received amount when you adjust the totals.

  • Hi Katherine

     

    This used to confuse me too, on-account money is not considered as received money in an un-controlled batch, because you already received it under another payment method in the past.

     

    So what you need to do is adjust your total to exclude the on-account amount. Let’s say you processed a total of $6000 in donations and $1000 of that is on-account. You would make your received total $5000 – because you only received $5000 of ‘new’ money.

     

    Hope that helps.

    Sandra

  • Hi Katherine,
     
    The on-account money should not be included in your adjusted, totals (in the upper right) of the contribution editor.  Technically this money was already counted in someone else's batch before it was put on-acct to you.  If you've processed a mixed batch the received amount should not match the adjust total area.  I generally process on-acct money in its own batch so I don't have to subtract their total from the rest of the entries.
     
    You can get your mixed batch to close by subtracting the total amount you entered from on-acct only in the adjust total area.  I hope this makes sense.

    Jayne Atkinson
    La Jolla Playhouse | Mgr of Development Operations 
    858| 550-1070 x 132



    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Chien
    Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:02 PM
    To: Jayne Atkinson
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

    Hi Tessiturians,

    I'm wondering if someone can confirm this for me please?

    I usually bank donations in a Controlled Batch but am having problems closing the batch when money has been put "on-account". An error message pops up saying that the batch is out of balance even though the 'received amount' is the same in the 'adjust total' area.  

    The only way for me to close this Controlled Batch is to delete the transaction that contains the on-account money.

    Therefore, is it a general rule that to put money 'on-account', an uncontrolled batch is always used? Or is there a way around this?

    Thanking everyone in advance,

    Katherine

     




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  • Thank you for everyone's response. This has been an enligtening exercise and I have tested this in Test with successful results. I was able to close my controlled batch by adjusting the 'adjust total' area either by including or excluding the 'on-account' amount regardless of the received amount. I always thought the two had to be the same amount in order for the batch to close but I guess this proves me wrong!

    Cheers everyone, much appreciated! :)

    Katherine

     

     

     

  • When you do a batch that is ONLY on-account money, you want your totals to stay at $0 when you close the batch because no money came in and no money went out connected to your batch. The money is already in Tessitura and came in via your box office or your website, or some other avenue.

     

    If your batch consists of some cash/check/credit card payments along with on-account amounts, then you need to delete the on-account amount from the batch total. When you click on “adjust totals” then enter only your cash/checks/creditcards.

     

    Your batches should close for you.

     

    Let me know if this helps. J

     

    Marie Kocher

    Development Assistant

    Kansas City Ballet

    1616 Broadway

    Kansas City, MO 64108

    (816) 931-2232

    www.kcballet.org 


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Chien
    Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:02 PM
    To: Marie Kocher
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

     

    Hi Tessiturians,

    I'm wondering if someone can confirm this for me please?

    I usually bank donations in a Controlled Batch but am having problems closing the batch when money has been put "on-account". An error message pops up saying that the batch is out of balance even though the 'received amount' is the same in the 'adjust total' area.  

    The only way for me to close this Controlled Batch is to delete the transaction that contains the on-account money.

    Therefore, is it a general rule that to put money 'on-account', an uncontrolled batch is always used? Or is there a way around this?

    Thanking everyone in advance,

    Katherine

     




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  • I’m not sure that you need it after all the great responses, but I wanted to post the link to the Batch Administration document which could be a nice resource for you if you have more batch questions in the future:

     

    http://www.tessituranetwork.com/~/media/Documentation/General/Batch_Administration.ashx

     

    You can also access this document through the help system when you are on the batch administrator screen by pressing F1.

     

    Kevin Sheehan

    Documentation & Learning Resources Specialist

    Tessitura Network

    1 888 643 5778 ext 329 Office

    ksheehan@tessituranetwork.com

     

  • Thanks Marie, this makes perfect sense!

     

    I appreciate all the help I can get.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Katherine

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Marie Kocher
    Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 6:09 AM
    To: Katherine Chien
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

     

    When you do a batch that is ONLY on-account money, you want your totals to stay at $0 when you close the batch because no money came in and no money went out connected to your batch. The money is already in Tessitura and came in via your box office or your website, or some other avenue.

     

    If your batch consists of some cash/check/credit card payments along with on-account amounts, then you need to delete the on-account amount from the batch total. When you click on “adjust totals” then enter only your cash/checks/creditcards.

     

    Your batches should close for you.

     

    Let me know if this helps. J

     

    Marie Kocher

    Development Assistant

    Kansas City Ballet

    1616 Broadway

    Kansas City, MO 64108

    (816) 931-2232

    www.kcballet.org 


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Chien
    Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:02 PM
    To: Marie Kocher
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

     

    Hi Tessiturians,

    I'm wondering if someone can confirm this for me please?

    I usually bank donations in a Controlled Batch but am having problems closing the batch when money has been put "on-account". An error message pops up saying that the batch is out of balance even though the 'received amount' is the same in the 'adjust total' area.  

    The only way for me to close this Controlled Batch is to delete the transaction that contains the on-account money.

    Therefore, is it a general rule that to put money 'on-account', an uncontrolled batch is always used? Or is there a way around this?

    Thanking everyone in advance,

    Katherine

     




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  • You are very welcome.

    -Marie Kocher
    Kansas City Ballet
    1616 Broadway
    Kansas City, MO 64108
    mkocher@kcballet.org
    www.kcballet.org


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tessitura Development Forum on behalf of Katherine Chien
    Sent: Fri 7/10/2009 12:10 AM
    To: Marie Kocher
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

    Thanks Marie, this makes perfect sense!



    I appreciate all the help I can get.



    Cheers,



    Katherine



    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Marie Kocher
    Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 6:09 AM
    To: Katherine Chien
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?



    When you do a batch that is ONLY on-account money, you want your totals to stay at $0 when you close the batch because no money came in and no money went out connected to your batch. The money is already in Tessitura and came in via your box office or your website, or some other avenue.



    If your batch consists of some cash/check/credit card payments along with on-account amounts, then you need to delete the on-account amount from the batch total. When you click on "adjust totals" then enter only your cash/checks/creditcards.



    Your batches should close for you.



    Let me know if this helps. J



    Marie Kocher

    Development Assistant

    Kansas City Ballet

    1616 Broadway

    Kansas City, MO 64108

    (816) 931-2232

    www.kcballet.org

    ________________________________

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Chien
    Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:02 PM
    To: Marie Kocher
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?



    Hi Tessiturians,

    I'm wondering if someone can confirm this for me please?

    I usually bank donations in a Controlled Batch but am having problems closing the batch when money has been put "on-account". An error message pops up saying that the batch is out of balance even though the 'received amount' is the same in the 'adjust total' area.

    The only way for me to close this Controlled Batch is to delete the transaction that contains the on-account money.

    Therefore, is it a general rule that to put money 'on-account', an uncontrolled batch is always used? Or is there a way around this?

    Thanking everyone in advance,

    Katherine






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  • This thread just saved me banging my head against the desk at 11am on Monday morning. Thanks, all.

    dgh

  • Glad to help. J

     

    Marie

     

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    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of David Geoffrey Hall
    Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 7:59 PM
    To: Marie Kocher
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

     

    This thread just saved me banging my head against the desk at 11am on Monday morning. Thanks, all.

    dgh

    From: Marie Kocher <bounce-mariekocher5698@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 7/10/2009 10:13:17 AM

    You are very welcome.

    -Marie Kocher
    Kansas City Ballet
    1616 Broadway
    Kansas City, MO 64108
    mkocher@kcballet.org
    www.kcballet.org


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tessitura Development Forum on behalf of Katherine Chien
    Sent: Fri 7/10/2009 12:10 AM
    To: Marie Kocher
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?

    Thanks Marie, this makes perfect sense!



    I appreciate all the help I can get.



    Cheers,



    Katherine



    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Marie Kocher
    Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 6:09 AM
    To: Katherine Chien
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?



    When you do a batch that is ONLY on-account money, you want your totals to stay at $0 when you close the batch because no money came in and no money went out connected to your batch. The money is already in Tessitura and came in via your box office or your website, or some other avenue.



    If your batch consists of some cash/check/credit card payments along with on-account amounts, then you need to delete the on-account amount from the batch total. When you click on "adjust totals" then enter only your cash/checks/creditcards.



    Your batches should close for you.



    Let me know if this helps. J



    Marie Kocher

    Development Assistant

    Kansas City Ballet

    1616 Broadway

    Kansas City, MO 64108

    (816) 931-2232

    www.kcballet.org

    ________________________________

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Chien
    Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:02 PM
    To: Marie Kocher
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Banking 'on-account' money in a Controlled Batch?



    Hi Tessiturians,

    I'm wondering if someone can confirm this for me please?

    I usually bank donations in a Controlled Batch but am having problems closing the batch when money has been put "on-account". An error message pops up saying that the batch is out of balance even though the 'received amount' is the same in the 'adjust total' area.

    The only way for me to close this Controlled Batch is to delete the transaction that contains the on-account money.

    Therefore, is it a general rule that to put money 'on-account', an uncontrolled batch is always used? Or is there a way around this?

    Thanking everyone in advance,

    Katherine






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