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Affiliations v Associations

Shelley Espinoza
$organization

I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this concept. 

In one sentence what is the difference between affiliations and associations? 

  • $organization

    Correct me if I'm wrong - Affiliations are between two different types of constituents (ex. between an individual and a household) while associations are between two of the same constituent types (ex. between individual and individual). That's how I understand it anyway!

  • $organization

    Here’s my best one sentence description:

     

    Affiliation is a relationship between an individual account and a group account (Household or Organization), whereas Association is a relationship between two individual accounts or between two group accounts.

     

    Sadie M. Treese

    Pittsburgh Cultural Trust

    (412)456-1058

     

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    I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this concept. 

    In one sentence what is the difference between affiliations and associations? 




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  • $organization

    Affiliations link group constituents (households and organizations) to individual constituents and trigger all the special sharing of data between households and individuals.

     

    Associations link individuals to individuals, households to households, and organizations to organizations and have no special functionality (they just record a relationship).

     

    Kevin Sheehan

    Senior Documentation & Learning Resources Specialist

    Tessitura Network

    +1 888 643 5778 x 329

    ksheehan@tessituranetwork.com

     

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    I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this concept. 

    In one sentence what is the difference between affiliations and associations? 




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  • $organization

    Hi Shelley,

    Not exactly a sentence, but this is how we have been presenting in our training.  Associations Same and Affiliations Different

     

    ›  In the new version, associations are between ‘like’ groups, or the ‘same’ types

    ›  Individual to individual

    ›  Household to household

    ›  Affiliations are between different types of groups

    ›  Individual to household

    ›  Individual to company

     

    Hope that helps.

     

     

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    I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this concept. 

    In one sentence what is the difference between affiliations and associations? 




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  • $organization

    Basically my understanding is that  – an Affiliation is Like to Unlike (say an individual who is connected to an organization).  An association is like to like – so a school with another school, or an individual with another individual (subscribers who sit together).  Took me a long time to sort that out!

    Hope that helps,

    Tal

     

    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Shelley Salinas
    Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:35 PM
    To: kareen@youngcentre.ca
    Subject: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] Affiliations v Associations

     

    I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this concept. 

    In one sentence what is the difference between affiliations and associations? 




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  • $organization

    Hi Shelley,

     

    The only other note I'd add that may be helpful is to remember that Affiliations are always from the point of view of the individual.  For example, if I were affiliated to a Household, I would be an Adult Member of that Household.  If I were affiliated to a School, I would be a Teacher at that School.  If I were affiliated to a Corporation, I might be CEO or HR Director at that Corporation.

     

    More than one sentence, but I hope that helps!

    Meaghan

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    Former Member $organization

    Affiliations represent relationships between individuals and groups (employee to Company, spouses to a Household) and Associations represent relationships between like constituent types (individual to individual such as niece to uncle or group to group such as Company to Subsidiary).

     

    I recommend reviewing the what's New in Version 11 document for more information.  Here's a link to this document on the website: http://www.tessituranetwork.com/network/Learning/Documentation/v11/New%20in%20Version%2011.aspx

     

    Bob

     

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    I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this concept. 

    In one sentence what is the difference between affiliations and associations? 




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  • $organization

    Thanks, Meaghan.  I’ve been using your powerpoint in my end user training and it’s been very helpful.

     

    Shelley Salinas

     

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    Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:28 PM
    To: Shelley Salinas
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] Affiliations v Associations

     

    Hi Shelley,

     

    The only other note I'd add that may be helpful is to remember that Affiliations are always from the point of view of the individual.  For example, if I were affiliated to a Household, I would be an Adult Member of that Household.  If I were affiliated to a School, I would be a Teacher at that School.  If I were affiliated to a Corporation, I might be CEO or HR Director at that Corporation.

     

    More than one sentence, but I hope that helps!

    Meaghan

    From: Shelley Salinas <bounce-shelleysalinas8221@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/25/2012 12:29:40 PM

    I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this concept. 

    In one sentence what is the difference between affiliations and associations? 




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  • $organization in reply to Shelley Espinoza

    Oh good!  Glad it's proving helpful to you.

  • $organization in reply to Meaghan Metke

    All All

    I find it odd that Tess doesn't allow for the Association of a Household to an Individual - I'm find there are many cases where a couple is friends with one person, but I can't add an association, or have to add the association to each individual member of the household. There are things called 'Family Friends' after all.

    Or maybe I'm missing something.

  • $organization in reply to Kyle Johnson

    Unknown said:

    I find it odd that Tess doesn't allow for the Association of a Household to an Individual - I'm find there are many cases where a couple is friends with one person, but I can't add an association, or have to add the association to each individual member of the household. There are things called 'Family Friends' after all.

    Or maybe I'm missing something.

    This is very possible. You could, e.g. add an Affiliation type to TR_AFFILIATION_TYPE named "Friend of the Family" or the like; add that to TX_CUST_TYPE_AFFILIATE under cust_type "Household"; add family friends.

  • $organization in reply to Chris Jensen

    We've just moved away from that. There was a 'Friend' affiliation type, but I've deactivated it as the person who is the friend is not 'owned' or 'subject' to the household, but entirely separate - they are 'Associated'.

    There should be an exception that individuals can be associated with Households, as in many ways Households act as Individuals. Equally why does it make more sense to be able to 'Associate' two households together, and two individuals, but not Household to Individual?

  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Kyle Johnson

    Hi Kyle

    Conceptually, I don't think Affiliations are necessarily intended to imply ownership or subjection, or any kind of hierarchical relationship. That's up to how you use them.

     As I understand it, Affiliations and Associations are just two different flavours of Relationship, with the only major difference being that Affiliations record relationships between individuals and groups (whether the groups are Households or corporations or whatever else you like to define) and Associations record relationships between indivs or between groups. Affiliations have some extra functionality which means that you can use them more effectively for superordinate-subordinate, or group-membership type relationships, but that's not a necessary part of their conceptual baggage.  

    So that an Affiliation between an Indiv and a group is, actually, what you're after - it is, effectively, a (version of) an association, but that can be used for relationships between an indiv and a group constituent.

    Ken

  • $organization

    This is the sill way I remember the difference

     

    Associations are between the same record type-Individual to Individual, Household to Household, etc.  The double s in Association stands for same.

    Affiliations are between different record types-Individual to Household.  The double f in Affiliations stands for different. 

     

    Melissa

     

     

    From: Technology Roadmap Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Ken McSwain
    Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:31 PM
    To: Melissa Malone
    Subject: RE: [Technology Roadmap Forum] Affiliations v Associations

     

    Hi Kyle

    Conceptually, I don't think Affiliations are necessarily intended to imply ownership or subjection, or any kind of hierarchical relationship. That's up to how you use them.

     As I understand it, Affiliations and Associations are just two different flavours of Relationship, with the only major difference being that Affiliations record relationships between individuals and groups (whether the groups are Households or corporations or whatever else you like to define) and Associations record relationships between indivs or between groups. Affiliations have some extra functionality which means that you can use them more effectively for superordinate-subordinate, or group-membership type relationships, but that's not a necessary part of their conceptual baggage.  

    So that an Affiliation between an Indiv and a group is, actually, what you're after - it is, effectively, a (version of) an association, but that can be used for relationships between an indiv and a group constituent.

    Ken

    From: Kyle Johnson <bounce-kylejohnson4530@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 1/29/2014 9:13:15 AM

    We've just moved away from that. There was a 'Friend' affiliation type, but I've deactivated it as the person who is the friend is not 'owned' or 'subject' to the household, but entirely separate - they are 'Associated'.

    There should be an exception that individuals can be associated with Households, as in many ways Households act as Individuals. Equally why does it make more sense to be able to 'Associate' two households together, and two individuals, but not Household to Individual?




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