Daily Admissions Ticket rolled into Membership

Hello!

We are currently closed to the public due to renovation and haven't actually used Tessitura much for daily admissions. We are trying to figure out the best way to roll a daily admissions ticket into a membership. Let's say a guest reserves their daily admissions ticket online. When they get to the museum they see our membership benefits and would like to become a member. We'd like to use the money that they have paid for their daily admissions ticket toward their membership.

Do you do this at your museum or attraction? We'd love to hear how you record these transactions. Does ticketing take the hit or membership? Do you use a fake or dummy payment method? On Account? How does your finance department account for it? What if they decide to become a member after they've been through the museum but before they've left the property? Does that change how you process the transfer?

Thank you in advance!

  • I am not the person who deals with this daily (although I could probably connect you with that person), but this is absolutely something we deal with regularly, and it has historically been a struggle for us, mostly due to the fact that we swim upstream by not printing actual tickets for onsite sales.
     
    If I recall correctly,  it’s not really a problem for named constituent transactions, since you can always just retroactively pull up the order, add the membership, and then adjust the financial details as appropriate. And if you print physical tickets, then you have a way to recall even general public transactions to adjust them. In your case, if they transacted online, I would also think that you might be able to just pull up the original order and edit it, although now that I think about it that’s probably problematic if it was ordered well in advance.
     
    The trouble we had is that we don’t print physical admission tickets. At our biggest site we use admission stickers, and at smaller sites we just rely on tour guides to corral people.  So we have no easy way to pull up the original order for tickets sold at the gate to “general public.” So we created a “membership conversion” workaround that allowed the sale of a reduced variable price membership into a dummy performance for people who had just come off of a tour and we knew had already paid admission for the day. As far as I know this process is still pretty much in place from when we implemented it.
     
    My recollection is that it  works my selling them a zero priced “conversion membership” performance attached to a new (or existing) constituent, then having the cashier manually add the difference in cost to the member account via a “membership on account”  payment method. Finally they create a CSI to inform the membership team that they need to sort this out (although in retrospect it seems like we could probably automate the CSI creation on the backend if we wanted to.)
     
    I don’t think this is the most elegant solution, and it probably doesn’t entirely answer the accounting question you’re asking about who gets credit. (I think in our case visitor experience probably gets credit for a full price tour and membership essentially has to sell a super-discounted membership. But I think was seen as an acceptable tradeoff given that it lets us gain a member who might have otherwise walked away.)
     
    I will be interested to see what others have to say about this, and if it’s useful I would be happy to connect you with the folks who are more familiar with this process on a day-to-day basis.
     
    -David Dwiggins
    CIO, Historic New England
     
     
  • Hi Jessie, 

    We do this at The Tech Interactive! The process is the same whether visitors come to the desk at the beginning or end of their visit. Because they ordered online, they already have a constituent record created. We ask for their order ID#, which is on their email confirmation/ticket from their online order. We open that order and refund the general admission tickets, placing the credit On Account. (We have a specific On Account Membership payment method set up for this purpose.) Then we open a new order, entering their constituent ID. We add a membership contribution, paying for it in part with the money on account and then asking the new member to pay the balance. We also have a specific source code set up to track these "admission to membership upgrades," which is in part why we do the membership transaction on a new order instead of on the original ticket order. We process the membership as usual at that point. 

    You didn't ask this, but we do the same for on-site admission ticket purchases -- we have signage and voiceovers encouraging visitors to upgrade their admission tickets to a membership if they enjoyed their visit. If someone came to the desk, we'd ask for their physical printed ticket and get the order number off of that. If it had initially been an anonymous transaction (constituent ID 0), we create a new constituent record for the person, reassign that order to the newly created constituent record, and then proceed to refund the ticket costs to On Account and process a membership order. We also allow ticket to membership conversions for a few days post-visit, and the process is the same - we just take payment for the balance due over the phone.

    We redirect the ticket cost toward membership's income stream so that the new member can get the full amount credited as a tax-deductible contribution. 

    Emily Allen

    Membership Manager

    The Tech Interactive, San Jose, CA

  • Hi Jessie

    I should preface this with the cavate that I am several years removed from having done a conversion. At Shedd we follow most of the steps Emily outlined. Where we differ is that we no longer refund the orders to On Account and instead use a dummy payment method. We pivoted away several years ago at Accounting's request. We were doing so many conversions that number of tickets that were being removed from the daily attendance became problematic for reporting purposes. Our dummy payment is called Ticket conversion to membership, and it is on the staff member to calculate the convertible portion of an order and apply that towards a membership using this payment method. As part of their monthly reconciliation Accounting works their magic and adjusts the GL as needed. 

  • We’re going live in June and setting this up with the Tessitura team right now. David Crowther and Jeff Cass, from Tessitura, recommended this process:
     
    Return original tickets
    Put Money On Acct
    Sell Membership
    Use the On Acct money
    Insert second payment for extra amount due
    Click Finish
    Start new order
    Sell Original tickets now at membership pricetype
     
    It’s not in practice yet but we think this will allow membership and ticketing to get proper funds without accounting having to do manual adjustments on the back end.
     
    Shelley Espinoza
    Fundraising Data Reporting and Analytics Manager | Missouri Botanical Garden
    4344 Shaw Blvd. | St. Louis, MO 63110 mobot.org
    sespinoza@mobot.org | (314) 577-5195
     
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  • and her great Membership team at Liberty Science Center work a process for this all the time.  It's been a few years since I've worked there so I don't remember the details.  However Melissa, if you are hanging out here in the group.  Please jump in with anything you might be able to share.

  • Hi Jessie, we do this regularly.It's our conversion campaign and we are very active in promoting it. Our advantage is that we have membership set up as a product not a contribution, so this gives us liberty to just return the daily admission and add a membership as product and run the cc for the difference. I am sure you could probably do it the same way with on account funds. Ticketing takes the hit as all revenue is considered membership revenue. The logic behind it is that if the visitor had known about the membership program before buying tickets they most probably would have gotten the membership in the first place.