A Searching Question...

Hi all, 

(See my short blog that helps frame and explain this post...)

We need your help!

Consider the process of searching for a constituent.  Outline some business scenarios* that commonly require searching for a constituent.  Specifically outline some business scenarios that require searching for a constituent that you find difficult to do in Tessitura today. 

Are there websites where you particularly like the search functionality? Can you point us there and explain what you like?

Thanks!

Andrew

* Note: A business scenario is phrased something like this: “Sandy the ticket desk concierge is given a partial credit card number and street address in order to locate a constituent who is picking up tickets for a friend”.  Notice that it doesn’t indicate any specific search functionality or design.  It just explains the business scenario which needs to be accomplished.

  • Andrew,

     

    Just had one of these situations today.  So here goes.

     

    _____ the Marketing Manager wants to send letters to Art Departments at multiple Universities.  In his system there are 10s of different departments at the same university listed as separate constituents.  In each case the main constituent name is XXXXXX University but he wants to contact the Art Department in particular, not Alumni Relations Department or others.  In dealing with these organizations _____ the Marketing Manager has very complicated addresses that run for 5 and 6 lines.  He is a very savvy Marketing Manager and has added attributes to these constituents so his list is likely working OK.  However, because there are not enough places to record this data in the database staff around the building are hiding this data in different fields or Address, Salutation, Name….  When these results come up on the screen many of them look like XXXXXXX University that it.  So, he has to go through these entries manually to find the right one to make sure that his search is working OK.  Below is the kind of addresses ______ the Marketing Manager is working with.

     

                                                                    XXXXXX University

                                                                    Department of Art

                                                                    154 School Street

                                                                    Room 5104-456 (Mail Stop 6117)

                                                                    College Town, MA 08996

     

                                                                    Attn Mary Smith

     

    --Tom

     

    P.S. I did not remember the name of the Marketing Manager

     

    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Recinos
    Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:27 PM
    To: Thomas Brown
    Subject: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] A Searching Question...

     

    Hi all, 

    (See my short blog that helps frame and explain this post...)

    We need your help!

    Consider the process of searching for a constituent.  Outline some business scenarios* that commonly require searching for a constituent.  Specifically outline some business scenarios that require searching for a constituent that you find difficult to do in Tessitura today. 

    Are there websites where you particularly like the search functionality? Can you point us there and explain what you like?

    Thanks!

    Andrew

    * Note: A business scenario is phrased something like this: “Sandy the ticket desk concierge is given a partial credit card number and street address in order to locate a constituent who is picking up tickets for a friend”.  Notice that it doesn’t indicate any specific search functionality or design.  It just explains the business scenario which needs to be accomplished.




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  • Hi Andrew

    Tried to think up some scenarios covering issues that currently make searching tricky for us:

    ·         Separation of Customer-related and transactional/order searches

    ·         Working with Filters, Aliases, Attributes, Lists

    ·         Lack of control of the fields presented in the Search Result.

     

    1.       Mia the Education manager wants to search for all the Drama teachers employed at the schools in the outer-west region, but only if the school has current unpaid orders for her schools programs.

    In the search result she wants to see the teacher's personal email address and phone info, together with the school’s mailing address together with a list of the open orders.

     

    2.       John the ticket sales rep wants to search for all customers who paid with cash for tonights performance of La Boheme.  He also wants to see the details of any co-subscribers or companions attending, sorted by surname within postcode.

     

    3.       Nicole the Opening Night coordinator wants to search for staff of the major sponsors invited to tomorrows opening night who have home addresses in the selected postcode areas and who haven’t rsvp’d. She wants to see their associated employer name or business address in the results.

     

    Go on, make Mia, John and Nicole's day ...

    Peter

     

  • First, the example with the university is a big one!  Something that we struggle with for both universities and corporations.

    Other scenarios:

    The box office manager needs to search for everyone who has the wheelchair price type to check that they are seated in the proper areas for their specific needs.

    The volunteer coordinator doesn't remember the name of the volunteer she spoke with this morning, but knows she will recognize it if she could just search by everyone with the volunteer constituency.  (filtering is great if you have something else to search for...)

  • Other business cases:

    Patron A calls the box office and their parents are "sits with" subscribers of Patron B. They don't know Patron B's name, but they want to make sure they have tickets for tonight waiting at will call. The box office needs to be able to search by Patron A's name, but pull up people associated with Patron A as well.

    John Smith emails us to ask to be removed from the mailing list. Unfortunately, he's written back from his work account and not the account we have on file. We do, however, promote all our eNewsletter and if the front desk could filter 'John Smith' search results on that promotion, they might be able to find the account quickly.

     

  • I always wished that you could make 'templates' for searching, covering what/how you search and what is returned.

    For example I want to see all Press who are Reviewers (what is currently a constituency /attribute combo) with the last name of smith in a postcode range. What I see returned is my Press Template where I have opted for a specific type of address to show.

    If I am in Subs mode I have a template for that where I only want to see specific types of associations (sit with or companion)

    The templates are set up as drag and drop from the available fields and you set the values where appropriate ie association type.

    What I'm hoping this template will remove the current set up where colour coded results are returned for when accounts are an alias of what you searched for or a contact etc.

    Oh yeah and you can switch between template during the search by just refreshing your "view", or add adhoc output to your template and just refresh to see it updated.

    To be able to drag and drop the returned columns after a search to change their order and all the returned columns are to be sortable on the fly as well.

    In an odd way the searching setup wouldn't be that must different to the logic behind list manager, and what would be great is if from the constituent search you had the option to make a list/output it. The output option would be a security right you could have ...

    Just my 2cents worth ;-)

    S.

  • The Box Office Manager has received a check in the mail.  It is from school district #279 and she knows it is for a school order.  However the check doesn't indicate the order number or the school name.  She needs to be able to search by district name or number or contact name, amount due, and perhaps visit date if that is indicated. We can do some of this in pieces right now, but not all together. 

    Aah, the good old days of playing match that check (and hoping against hope you were applying it to the correct order!).

  • Martha the Subscriber brings a friend (Carly) to the Concert performance, and introduces her to Alice the Development Manager.  Martha tells Alice that her friend has attended the Symphony before, and is a potential major donor with connections to several corporate boards.   Alice goes back to the office and wants to search for Carly and quickly identify all of her connections and relationships, both to other constituents within Tessitura and external connections available in online information, as well as mentions or appearances of Carly in other online materials and networks.   Alice wants to view the results visually so she can quickly guage Carly's potential as a prospect and get a quick sense of who she might be able to recruit to assist her in soliciting Carly.    For a good example of this, see the Muckety Map at muckety.com

  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Alan Levine

    Jane has a museum membership at the family/dual level.  Because she is widowed and lives alone, she shares her membership with her friend, Joan.  Jane receives an invitation to a members-only event at the museum.  She is unable to attend but passes the invitation on to Joan, who RSVP's on behalf of herself and her neighbor Sally.

    Sandy the concierge receives the RSVP.  She needs to find Joan in the system, verify that she is indeed a member (under Jane's membership) and enter the RSVP for Joan and sally.

    When the event rolls around a couple of weeks later, Joan has the flu, so Sally attends with her friend, John.  When Sandy the concierge greets them at the door, she needs to find Sally in Tessitura and verify her event RSVP.

  • So I'm wondering (semi-seriously) why John and Sally get to attend what you described as a "members-only event"

  • There have been times (for me at least!) that while I’m fully aware that the invitation has passed hands from the original invitee, I would rather let John and Sally attend than somehow offend Jane, who is an extremely wealthy and generous donor.

     

    Cheers,

    Kathleen

     

    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Reif
    Sent: 01 October 2009 17:26
    To: Kathleen Smith
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] A Searching Question...

     

    So I'm wondering (semi-seriously) why John and Sally get to attend what you described as a "members-only event"

    From: Mara Hazzard <bounce-marahazzard4013@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 10/1/2009 10:28:05 AM

    Jane has a museum membership at the family/dual level.  Because she is widowed and lives alone, she shares her membership with her friend, Joan.  Jane receives an invitation to a members-only event at the museum.  She is unable to attend but passes the invitation on to Joan, who RSVP's on behalf of herself and her neighbor Sally.

    Sandy the concierge receives the RSVP.  She needs to find Joan in the system, verify that she is indeed a member (under Jane's membership) and enter the RSVP for Joan and sally.

    When the event rolls around a couple of weeks later, Joan has the flu, so Sally attends with her friend, John.  When Sandy the concierge greets them at the door, she needs to find Sally in Tessitura and verify her event RSVP.



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  • That makes sense.  Thanks!

  • Mara's post makes me think of one of our wish-list ideas:

    A basic household level membership at the Science Museum of Minnesota covers 2 adults and their kids or grandkids under age 18.  However, a member may pay a fee of $25 per person to add additional adult(s) to their membership.  Bob and Sheri are members of the museum.  They have a daughter, Margaret, who is 7 years old, and a son, Steven, who is 19.  Bob's mother Ellie frequently takes care of Margaret.  Bob and Sheri purchase two "upgrades" to allow Steven and Ellie to be covered on their membership. 

    This leads to various business scenarios, including:

    - Steven attends with some college friends.  The call center and box office staff need to be able to find his record and easily know he is a member when he reserves and picks up tickets.

    - Bob and Sheri attend with both of their children.  The call center/box office staff need to easily see that this membership covers all four of these individuals.

    - Ellie brings Margaret to the museum.  Again, frontline staff need to look the membership up under Ellie's name and be able to tell that Ellie and Margaret are both covered on the membership.

    - In all of the above scenarios, the member status information needs to be displayed in the same way to the frontline staff to avoid confusion, but there should also be some way to "dig deeper" if needed and establish that Bob and Sheri are the "primary" membership holders, and Steven and Elli are "add-ons" to the membership.

    And of course, this all needs to play out to customers buying tickets on the web as well...but I'll leave that for another thread. :P

    Beth
  • As a ticketing person working closely with our membership and marketing departments: ”Because we can”.

     


    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Reif
    Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:26 AM
    To: rbernard@smm.org
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] A Searching Question...

     

    So I'm wondering (semi-seriously) why John and Sally get to attend what you described as a "members-only event"

    From: Mara Hazzard <bounce-marahazzard4013@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 10/1/2009 10:28:05 AM

    Jane has a museum membership at the family/dual level.  Because she is widowed and lives alone, she shares her membership with her friend, Joan.  Jane receives an invitation to a members-only event at the museum.  She is unable to attend but passes the invitation on to Joan, who RSVP's on behalf of herself and her neighbor Sally.

    Sandy the concierge receives the RSVP.  She needs to find Joan in the system, verify that she is indeed a member (under Jane's membership) and enter the RSVP for Joan and sally.

    When the event rolls around a couple of weeks later, Joan has the flu, so Sally attends with her friend, John.  When Sandy the concierge greets them at the door, she needs to find Sally in Tessitura and verify her event RSVP.



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  • So I think I'm hearing that we need to search on more than what we would consider "constituent data" and go into even some transactional things.  Or maybe we're searching for different things all at once and not just constituents--constituents and orders and payments, etc. etc.  I'm also hearing that we should search several levels deep into associations and links.  Maybe simple search and then an advanced option which presents all sorts of possibilities?

    And combine what we think of as constituent search and what we currently know of as order search plus maybe searching for other types of entities all in the same place.

    Please keep commenting!

  • I love the idea of being able to search for different kinds of records (constituents, orders, contributions, transactions, CSI’s, ticklers…), and then move from those transactions to the various associated records.  Here’s an oft-used scenario I remember from our previous database-which-shall-not-be-named:

     

    Alice remembers processing a contribution to the Education fund a few days ago, but she can’t remember who gave it.  She wants to search for all the contributions given to that fund in the past week, click into the contribution records to verify which is the one she’s looking for, and then click into the constituent record to update a tickler.

     

    You could take it a step further by saying she remembers processing a payment to the same fund a few days ago.  She has to find the payment, and then click through to the original contribution/pledge, and then to the constituent record.

     

    Kirk Mortensen
    Database Administrator

    tel: 650-463-7122
    fax: 650-463-1963
    kirk@theatreworks.org

     

     

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    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Reif
    Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:41 PM
    To: Kirk Mortensen
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] RE: A Searching Question...

     

    So I think I'm hearing that we need to search on more than what we would consider "constituent data" and go into even some transactional things.  Or maybe we're searching for different things all at once and not just constituents--constituents and orders and payments, etc. etc.  I'm also hearing that we should search several levels deep into associations and links.  Maybe simple search and then an advanced option which presents all sorts of possibilities?

    And combine what we think of as constituent search and what we currently know of as order search plus maybe searching for other types of entities all in the same place.

    Please keep commenting!

    From: Ray Bernard <bounce-raymondbernard7790@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 10/2/2009 7:57:40 AM

    As a ticketing person working closely with our membership and marketing departments: ”Because we can”.

     


    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Reif
    Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:26 AM
    To: rbernard@smm.org
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] A Searching Question...

     

    So I'm wondering (semi-seriously) why John and Sally get to attend what you described as a "members-only event"

    From: Mara Hazzard <bounce-marahazzard4013@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 10/1/2009 10:28:05 AM

    Jane has a museum membership at the family/dual level.  Because she is widowed and lives alone, she shares her membership with her friend, Joan.  Jane receives an invitation to a members-only event at the museum.  She is unable to attend but passes the invitation on to Joan, who RSVP's on behalf of herself and her neighbor Sally.

    Sandy the concierge receives the RSVP.  She needs to find Joan in the system, verify that she is indeed a member (under Jane's membership) and enter the RSVP for Joan and sally.

    When the event rolls around a couple of weeks later, Joan has the flu, so Sally attends with her friend, John.  When Sandy the concierge greets them at the door, she needs to find Sally in Tessitura and verify her event RSVP.



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