V.12 in Consortia

Hello,

The Kansas City Tessitura Consortium upgraded to Tessitura v.12.0.3 last week and we've encountered some glitches along the way.  Some problems are to be expected with any new version upgrade but I'm wondering if our issues are consortium related.  If you've upgraded to v.12 (whether standalone or in consortium), what has been your experience?

Many thanks,

ERIC 

  • Tessitura Support is currently working with the Kansas City Consortium to determine what the issues are and how to address them. We have had several consortia successfully go live with v12 since its release.

  • Eric,

     

    We are looking at moving our consortium to v12 in the next few weeks. Can you let me know what issues you have found and are struggling with as possibly related to the consortia?

     

    Thank you.

     

    Randall A. Mitchell
    Director of Information Systems | The Phoenix Symphony | Tel. (602) 452-0440 | Mobile. (602) 796-9323 | Fax. (602) 253-1772
    RMitchell@PHOENIXSYMPHONY.ORG | www.phoenixsymphony.org

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Eric Williams
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 9:20 AM
    To: Randall A. Mitchell
    Subject: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Hello,

    The Kansas City Tessitura Consortium upgraded to Tessitura v.12.0.3 last week and we've encountered some glitches along the way.  Some problems are to be expected with any new version upgrade but I'm wondering if our issues are consortium related.  If you've upgraded to v.12 (whether standalone or in consortium), what has been your experience?

    Many thanks,

    ERIC 




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    Randy,

     

    TIM is the key. You have to have everything absolutely correct. Go over it with a fine tooth comb. I highly recommend preparing your TIM configuration before the upgrade (test or live).  The good news about TIM is that it lets you uninstall most everything. So if something goes awry you can uninstall that component and do it over. Other things I learned…

     

    Don’t upgrade more than one component at a time.

    Read all the documents carefully and follow the directions in each step.

    If you use Transcend you have to upgrade it to v4 to work with v12.

    Plan where you are going to organize the upgrade files. It should be a shared network drive.

    Plan, plan, plan!

     

    I’ve upgraded our test environment and I’m launching in live on 5/19. I am going to do one more test upgrade before then.

     

    Gloria

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Randall Mitchell
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:05 PM
    To: Gloria Ormsby
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Eric,

     

    We are looking at moving our consortium to v12 in the next few weeks. Can you let me know what issues you have found and are struggling with as possibly related to the consortia?

     

    Thank you.

     

    Randall A. Mitchell
    Director of Information Systems | The Phoenix Symphony | Tel. (602) 452-0440 | Mobile. (602) 796-9323 | Fax. (602) 253-1772
    RMitchell@PHOENIXSYMPHONY.ORG | www.phoenixsymphony.org

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Eric Williams
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 9:20 AM
    To: Randall A. Mitchell
    Subject: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Hello,

    The Kansas City Tessitura Consortium upgraded to Tessitura v.12.0.3 last week and we've encountered some glitches along the way.  Some problems are to be expected with any new version upgrade but I'm wondering if our issues are consortium related.  If you've upgraded to v.12 (whether standalone or in consortium), what has been your experience?

    Many thanks,

    ERIC 




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  • Gloria,

    I'm intrigued by your comment about going to V4 of Transcend. We've upgraded to V12 successfully with V3 and I (very recently) spoke with someone at Intrix who told me V3 was the latest version. I'm wondering if I have been misinformed...

    Thanks!

  • Rather than worry about Transcend compatibility we've decided to go with Element before our upgrade later this month.  Element will ease the pain for future PCI compliance greatly in that credit numbers will not be stored on-site once Tessitura goes to tokenization.  Element also eliminates a server and the client software to be installed....all upside 

  • Also an option we are considering at this time. Still in the research phase though. :)

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    I mis-spoke. You are right it is v3.

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Beth Hawryluk
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:57 PM
    To: Gloria Ormsby
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Gloria,

    I'm intrigued by your comment about going to V4 of Transcend. We've upgraded to V12 successfully with V3 and I (very recently) spoke with someone at Intrix who told me V3 was the latest version. I'm wondering if I have been misinformed...

    Thanks!

    From: Gloria Ormsby <bounce-gloriaormsby5026@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2014 12:31:40 PM

    Randy,

     

    TIM is the key. You have to have everything absolutely correct. Go over it with a fine tooth comb. I highly recommend preparing your TIM configuration before the upgrade (test or live).  The good news about TIM is that it lets you uninstall most everything. So if something goes awry you can uninstall that component and do it over. Other things I learned…

     

    Don’t upgrade more than one component at a time.

    Read all the documents carefully and follow the directions in each step.

    If you use Transcend you have to upgrade it to v4 to work with v12.

    Plan where you are going to organize the upgrade files. It should be a shared network drive.

    Plan, plan, plan!

     

    I’ve upgraded our test environment and I’m launching in live on 5/19. I am going to do one more test upgrade before then.

     

    Gloria

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Randall Mitchell
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:05 PM
    To: Gloria Ormsby
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Eric,

     

    We are looking at moving our consortium to v12 in the next few weeks. Can you let me know what issues you have found and are struggling with as possibly related to the consortia?

     

    Thank you.

     

    Randall A. Mitchell
    Director of Information Systems | The Phoenix Symphony | Tel. (602) 452-0440 | Mobile. (602) 796-9323 | Fax. (602) 253-1772
    RMitchell@PHOENIXSYMPHONY.ORG | www.phoenixsymphony.org

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Eric Williams
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 9:20 AM
    To: Randall A. Mitchell
    Subject: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Hello,

    The Kansas City Tessitura Consortium upgraded to Tessitura v.12.0.3 last week and we've encountered some glitches along the way.  Some problems are to be expected with any new version upgrade but I'm wondering if our issues are consortium related.  If you've upgraded to v.12 (whether standalone or in consortium), what has been your experience?

    Many thanks,

    ERIC 




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  • Excellent. Just wanted to be sure! Thanks :)

  • And we're very grateful for the help! 

    My boss is asking me whether the issues we've encountered are attributable to our consortium environment...hence my query.  To complicate matters, our consortium has several control groups and we are also dealing with the results of past customization.   

    Many of our problems appear to have been related to security objects....once permissions were assigned, it was possible to fix issues.  

    Price types have had a few hiccups, some related to security and one issue still being diagnosed.   

    Acknowledgement letter reports needed to be tweaked because "Mail Purpose" is replaced by "Address Purpose."  Not a difficult fix but necessary. 

    We ran into a problem with v.12 playing well with TNEW and web sales went offline briefly....again, the problem was quickly dealt with but not without some angst. 

    There have been some login and report server difficulties, quickly addressed by RAMP.  We've also encountered some problems with getting some pre-Tessitura legacy data (ticketing, contributions) to display.

    We ran TIM several times and did a lot of testing prior to the upgrade.  We thought everything was ready for the upgrade.  We expected some glitches. Just wondering if our experience was because we're in a consortium.

  • Former Member
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    I’m glad you did!

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Beth Hawryluk
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 2:41 PM
    To: Gloria Ormsby
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Excellent. Just wanted to be sure! Thanks :)

    From: Gloria Ormsby <bounce-gloriaormsby5026@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2014 1:11:41 PM

    I mis-spoke. You are right it is v3.

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Beth Hawryluk
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:57 PM
    To: Gloria Ormsby
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Gloria,

    I'm intrigued by your comment about going to V4 of Transcend. We've upgraded to V12 successfully with V3 and I (very recently) spoke with someone at Intrix who told me V3 was the latest version. I'm wondering if I have been misinformed...

    Thanks!

    From: Gloria Ormsby <bounce-gloriaormsby5026@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2014 12:31:40 PM

    Randy,

     

    TIM is the key. You have to have everything absolutely correct. Go over it with a fine tooth comb. I highly recommend preparing your TIM configuration before the upgrade (test or live).  The good news about TIM is that it lets you uninstall most everything. So if something goes awry you can uninstall that component and do it over. Other things I learned…

     

    Don’t upgrade more than one component at a time.

    Read all the documents carefully and follow the directions in each step.

    If you use Transcend you have to upgrade it to v4 to work with v12.

    Plan where you are going to organize the upgrade files. It should be a shared network drive.

    Plan, plan, plan!

     

    I’ve upgraded our test environment and I’m launching in live on 5/19. I am going to do one more test upgrade before then.

     

    Gloria

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Randall Mitchell
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:05 PM
    To: Gloria Ormsby
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Eric,

     

    We are looking at moving our consortium to v12 in the next few weeks. Can you let me know what issues you have found and are struggling with as possibly related to the consortia?

     

    Thank you.

     

    Randall A. Mitchell
    Director of Information Systems | The Phoenix Symphony | Tel. (602) 452-0440 | Mobile. (602) 796-9323 | Fax. (602) 253-1772
    RMitchell@PHOENIXSYMPHONY.ORG | www.phoenixsymphony.org

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Eric Williams
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 9:20 AM
    To: Randall A. Mitchell
    Subject: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    Hello,

    The Kansas City Tessitura Consortium upgraded to Tessitura v.12.0.3 last week and we've encountered some glitches along the way.  Some problems are to be expected with any new version upgrade but I'm wondering if our issues are consortium related.  If you've upgraded to v.12 (whether standalone or in consortium), what has been your experience?

    Many thanks,

    ERIC 




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  • Hi all,

     

    We are a consortium that went live with v12 in January. Most of the issues we experienced were not necessarily related to being a consortium; however, here are two that I remember that may be worth looking out for:

     

    1.       We spent some time mapping solicitors to workers.  I may have just made an error somewhere along the way, but somehow, all of our workers ended up tagged with both a control grouped worker type and one that was not control grouped. Consequently, until we fixed this, everyone in the consortium was seeing all workers – even those that did not apply to their company.

     

    2.       We have had issues with some orders causing a Tessitura crash because the order had a control grouped email address linked to it, but it was an email address the particular person loading the order did not have access to. I can’t recall what the previous v11 behavior was, but it definitely was not a Tessitura crash. I believe those issues will be fixed in 12.1. If you are a consortium with some shared box office functions, this is one you may potentially run into.

     

    If I think of others, I’ll post another reply to this thread.

     

    Thanks,

    David

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Eric Williams
    Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 12:06 PM
    To: David Frederick
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Technical Forum] V.12 in Consortia

     

    And we're very grateful for the help! 

    My boss is asking me whether the issues we've encountered are attributable to our consortium environment...hence my query.  To complicate matters, our consortium has several control groups and we are also dealing with the results of past customization.   

    Many of our problems appear to have been related to security objects....once permissions were assigned, it was possible to fix issues.  

    Price types have had a few hiccups, some related to security and one issue still being diagnosed.   

    Acknowledgement letter reports needed to be tweaked because "Mail Purpose" is replaced by "Address Purpose."  Not a difficult fix but necessary. 

    We ran into a problem with v.12 playing well with TNEW and web sales went offline briefly....again, the problem was quickly dealt with but not without some angst. 

    There have been some login and report server difficulties, quickly addressed by RAMP.  We've also encountered some problems with getting some pre-Tessitura legacy data (ticketing, contributions) to display.

    We ran TIM several times and did a lot of testing prior to the upgrade.  We thought everything was ready for the upgrade.  We expected some glitches. Just wondering if our experience was because we're in a consortium.

    From: Gregg Stickney <bounce-greggstickney9906@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2014 11:28:58 AM

    Tessitura Support is currently working with the Kansas City Consortium to determine what the issues are and how to address them. We have had several consortia successfully go live with v12 since its release.




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  • The (somewhat painful) issue we have here in the UCSS consortium is that control grouped access restrictions to price type groups has been introduced in v12.  The effect of this is that if a user tries to access the new price type grid and the grid contains a price type in a group that the user does not have access to, a nasty application error is thrown and the application is unceremoniously closed.  We have had to create appropriate control groups for shared access to price type groups.  Of course, this is only an issue if there is share access to inventory.

    We're told this is to be fixed - in v12.1, hopefully!