WordFly vs. Mail2

WordFly vs. Mail2?  Which should we choose?

We're starting to do an evaluation of both messaging systems and thought there might be someone within the Tessitura Network who may have already done a similar analysis for your own organization.  Pros/Cons?  Opportunities/Issues? 

If you're comfortable sharing your insights, you can reach me at eweisser@92Y.org or 212-415-5596.  [FYI: I will not be sharing your specific report with anyone else.]


In advance, kind thanks.


Elizabeth (Weisser).Director of CRM.92nd Street Y

  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization

    We have begun implementing Mail2 after using both TMS and Wordfly. I can give you more insight after 2-3 weeks as we are just now diving into Mail2. If anyone else is interested you can reach me at jencey.hirunrusme@attpac.org or 214-978-2847.

     

    Jencey Hirunrusme

    Digital Marketing Manager

    AT&T Performing Arts Center

  • Thanks posting this Elizabeth.  I have also been wondering the same thing.  We are in the process of looking for a new email vendor as well.  I looked at presentations of both at the conference.

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    Former Member $organization

    Does anyone have the link to Mail2—I tried Googling it and got a bunch of shady looking sites? We’re just about to drop Constant Contact for WordFly since they changed their pricing structure, but I’d love to know any other options. Does Mail2 work with Tess?

     

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    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Amy Wilson
    Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:03 PM
    To: Lance Hayden Kump
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] WordFly vs. Mail2

     

    Thanks posting this Elizabeth.  I have also been wondering the same thing.  We are in the process of looking for a new email vendor as well.  I looked at presentations of both at the conference.

    From: Jencey Hirunrusme <bounce-jenceyhirunrusme3492@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 8/24/2011 3:39:17 PM

    We have begun implementing Mail2 after using both TMS and Wordfly. I can give you more insight after 2-3 weeks as we are just now diving into Mail2. If anyone else is interested you can reach me at jencey.hirunrusme@attpac.org or 214-978-2847.

     

    Jencey Hirunrusme

    Digital Marketing Manager

    AT&T Performing Arts Center




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    http://www.mail2.lynch2.com/contactus

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    Here is the Mail2 link and the main reason we decided to use Mail2. Although if you have a smaller list than we do it might be cheaper for you to use Word Fly. Let me know if you have any questions. It always helps to set up a demo with them. We switched because it was a fixed rate and much cheaper to use. It also has a custom screen so the Box Office can view the email while they are talking to the customer instead of trying to guess what they were sent..pretty nice!

    http://www.mail2.lynch2.com/

     

    FUNCTIONALITY BENEFITS

     List Segments with Saved Searches (Manage Subscriber Lists in Mail2 instead of Tessitura)

    Create dynamic list segments that update on their own. For example, create a field to track your patrons' preferences by artist. You can create a saved search that builds a list segment with all contacts for that artist preference. The next time you upload new contacts, or a visitor signs up from your website, and enters that artist in field, they'll automatically be added into that saved search. It's that simple.

      Subscriber Sign-Up Center (Subscribers Can Opt Out Without Logging into Tessitura)

    Your email subscribers can easily indicate preferences by visiting your customized subscription center. You can keep this dynamically created page simple, with just your logo, or pull your website graphics into the form with easy CSS integration. Subscribers can choose one or all of your email campaigns.

      Post Click Analytics with Google (Revenue Tracking)

    mail2's Google Analytics integration allows you to track conversions from an email campaign inside your Google and mail2 accounts. To activate, simply give mail2 permission to access your Google account, and enable the Google Analytics check-box when creating an email campaign inside mail2. You'll be able to track conversions and revenue from each email campaign on your Google dashboard and inside your mail2 campaign reports.

      Compare Campaign Stats (Ability to Benchmark Campaigns)

    How is this year's holiday campaign performing to last year? mail2's email message comparison tool empowers you to track historical trends.

     
      Create Multiple Page Surveys (Enhanced Way to Talk to Subscribers)

    Design easy-to-navigate surveys that span multiple pages.

     

    BOX OFFICE BENEFITS (Ability to View the Actual Email in the Constituent Account and Separate Tab for E-Subscriptions)

    Custom Screen

    Your mail2 installation is delivered with a custom screen on the constituent record that completely simplifies managing subscriptions from within Tessitura. No more re-purposing attributes or interests, or using mail purposes and marketing indicators. Managing e-subscriptions is handled where it needs to be handled: at the e-address level. Our custom screen provides three basic functions.

    1. It allows you to subscribe, unsubscribe or globally unsubscribe an existing or new email address for a patron.
    2. It allows you to view e-subscription preferences for each email address that the patron has on their record.
    3. It allows you view the complete email campaign history for a patron, including the ability to see if each campaign was opened or clicked. You can also view each email campaign that the patron received via a link in the campaign history window.

     

    PRICING BENEFITS

      Unlimited Means Unlimited

    Send all the emails you want - 10,000, 100,000 or 1 million emails every day, week, month or year. No strings attached.

      Flat Monthly Fee: $840 (75,000 users) Cheaper than Word Fly

    The marketing department is able to plan better with a fixed email-campaign budget. Say good-bye to the hassle of  hunting for additional marketing dollars to cover growing email needs.

     

  • Elizabeth -

    Having just watched the mail2 webinar this AM and having been on Wordfly for a year and a half, here's my two cents in a very simplified manner.

    Both have pros and cons - with WordFly releasing its new pricing structure if you are a smaller organization when it comes to sending out emails WordFly *might* be better for you. Our enews list is only 20k and we send that maybe twice a month + 10k in all the transactional emails which still puts us under the 'unlimited' price on a constitant basis.Larger organizations the cost has been taken out of the picture.

    So mail2 vs wordfly-

    From what I've seen (only in demos and webinar) the base product looks REALLY exciting. Some functionality has been made much easier than we have it in WordFly land. With monthly sprints, I can see this product being a real competitor, but just not quite yet.

    The biggest things I see (and reasons I couldn't switch to mail2 right now) are automatic (scheduled) customizations and triggered campaigns. Neither are there in mail2. Yet.

    So you'd have to look at your organization's needs and what you currently do in emails and what you want to do in the future. We have a series of emails that are totally personalized in content for a patron and are sent before the a show and another set that are sent after the show. With WordFly, I set it and forget it (although there is quite the upfront time overhead in the setup). With mail2 I'd have to be manually uploading on a daily basis which just makes me shudder.

    If your organization doesn't do that (or doesn't plan on doing it until probably next year if Lynch comes through on its promises) then mail2 might be the perfect fit. The biggest thing is looking at what your organization does (or wants to do) and then ranking those items and seeing who meets them best. I think of it like buying a house - I may SAY I want 2 baths, but will I live with 1.5? 

    Good luck, and feel free to contact me off-line if you want to!

    Heather
    Seattle Rep 

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    Former Member $organization

    Hi Elizabeth,

     

    We’ve been using mail2 at the Chicago Symphony Orchestra since the beginning of August, and we have been very pleased thus far with the product.

     

    While we were very happy with Wordfly, the Mail2 solution more thoroughly answered all of our institution’s wish-list items in terms of scalability and process. We found that it worked on a very simple level for the basic user but also had an array of options for more technical skill levels.

     

    On the front end, our design team responded to multiple methods for creating and integrating templates with campaigns. Our IT department was excited to not have to host any local files or new systems. Our Marketing department was sold on flexible email triggers, the ability to integrate with Tessitura, and the very detailed reporting. On the data side, the list management component is very lightweight and intuitive and requires less involvement by technical staff. The pricing model was also a partial consideration, which is based on total number of subscribers rather than emails sent, which made the budget affordable as well as predictable.

     

    We have also found Mail2 to quite responsive to the Tessitura community in terms of desired features – the system itself already contains an extraordinary number of customizable options and they are always open to new ideas. As Heather mentioned, they are still working on components like emails triggered by performance attendance and completely customized content at the patron level. But from the various conversations we’ve had with them, it sounds like those will be up and running sometime next year, if that suits your organization’s schedule.

     

    I would be happy to answer any questions you may have offline as well.

     

    Best,

     

    Kate Hagen

    Marketing Manager, Patron Retention

    Chicago Symphony Orchestra

    312-294-3084

    hagenk@cso.org

     

     

     

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Heather Kraft
    Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:29 PM
    To: Hagen, Kate
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] WordFly vs. Mail2

     

    Elizabeth -

    Having just watched the mail2 webinar this AM and having been on Wordfly for a year and a half, here's my two cents in a very simplified manner.

    Both have pros and cons - with WordFly releasing its new pricing structure if you are a smaller organization when it comes to sending out emails WordFly *might* be better for you. Our enews list is only 20k and we send that maybe twice a month + 10k in all the transactional emails which still puts us under the 'unlimited' price on a constitant basis.Larger organizations the cost has been taken out of the picture.

    So mail2 vs wordfly-

    From what I've seen (only in demos and webinar) the base product looks REALLY exciting. Some functionality has been made much easier than we have it in WordFly land. With monthly sprints, I can see this product being a real competitor, but just not quite yet.

    The biggest things I see (and reasons I couldn't switch to mail2 right now) are automatic (scheduled) customizations and triggered campaigns. Neither are there in mail2. Yet.

    So you'd have to look at your organization's needs and what you currently do in emails and what you want to do in the future. We have a series of emails that are totally personalized in content for a patron and are sent before the a show and another set that are sent after the show. With WordFly, I set it and forget it (although there is quite the upfront time overhead in the setup). With mail2 I'd have to be manually uploading on a daily basis which just makes me shudder.

    If your organization doesn't do that (or doesn't plan on doing it until probably next year if Lynch comes through on its promises) then mail2 might be the perfect fit. The biggest thing is looking at what your organization does (or wants to do) and then ranking those items and seeing who meets them best. I think of it like buying a house - I may SAY I want 2 baths, but will I live with 1.5? 

    Good luck, and feel free to contact me off-line if you want to!

    Heather
    Seattle Rep 

    From: Elizabeth Weisser <bounce-elizabethweisser8991@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 8/24/2011 2:50:22 PM

    WordFly vs. Mail2?  Which should we choose?

    We're starting to do an evaluation of both messaging systems and thought there might be someone within the Tessitura Network who may have already done a similar analysis for your own organization.  Pros/Cons?  Opportunities/Issues? 

    If you're comfortable sharing your insights, you can reach me at eweisser@92Y.org or 212-415-5596.  [FYI: I will not be sharing your specific report with anyone else.]


    In advance, kind thanks.


    Elizabeth (Weisser).Director of CRM.92nd Street Y




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  • Picking up this thread from back in August. Now that additional time has passed, I'm wondering if anyone has new insight on the WordFly vs. Mail2 debate. I'm particularly interested in anyone's experiences with both products in recent weeks as each platform seems to be continuously responding to advancements by the other -- which is good for us! Thanks, and happy holidays!

    Rebecca Curtiss
    Communications Manager
    Huntington Theatre Company