Import/export and reporting

Has anyone exported a show out of a fixed season order into a new order to switch the facility.  What kind of issues did people run into with reporting, or possible double reporting of revenue?

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  • Is your On Account payment method using an On Account Payment Type?  The utility will fail before importing the file if it is.

     

    -Ryan

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Nichole Mines
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:22 PM
    To: Ryan Creps
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    I actually tried posting to on account in our test environment and it did work.

    From: Ryan Creps <bounce-ryancreps9649@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2011 9:18:17 AM

    The Order Import Utility, unfortunately, only takes the following payment types:

    Check(3), Cash(5), Adjustment(6), or Other(7)

    Unfortunately, as it stands, no on account.

    -Ryan

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sheehan
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:02 AM
    To: Ryan Creps
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Actually, there is a magical way to refund the original performance.  You can use the Performance Seat Release utility, which will return all seats and put the money on account.  So you would run that after you do your export.

     

    I’m not sure about using an On Account payment method in an order import.  It probably would work.  Ryan, do you see any reason why it wouldn’t work?

     

    Kevin Sheehan

    Senior Documentation & Learning Resources Specialist

    Tessitura Network

    +1 888 643 5778 x 329

    ksheehan@tessituranetwork.com

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Marty Jones
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:42 AM
    To: Kevin Sheehan
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Peter,

     

    When you export, all you are doing is taking a copy of the information from the original performance. The export will not change anything in the original orders or performance.

     

    Now with the import and as long as you are not talking about the new orders being part of a rollover, you would just import into the real performance.

     

    There is no magical way to cancel/refund the original performance. You will have to touch each order and do the return from there.

     

    These are the steps that I would do.

     

    1.       Export the original performance to Excel

    2.       Return the seats in each order and put the money on account

    3.       Modify the seats in the Excel file to match the new facility.

    4.       Import the Excel file into the new facility using the on account money payment method

     

    <insert disclaimer here!> I have not done tried a import using On Account payment methods so not positive if this would work or not. Hopefully, someone from Tessitura can vouch for this.

     

    If all of this is for a rollover, then this will change how you would do this and I can go into detail if this is the case.

     

    Hope this helps,

     

    Marty Jones

    Director of Information Services

     

    Omaha Performing Arts
    1200 Douglas Street

    Omaha, Nebraska 68102

    P 402.661.8469

    Marty.Jones@omahaperformingarts.org

    www.omahaperformingarts.org

    For tickets, call Ticket Omaha at 402.345.0606

     

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Peter Nelson
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:23 AM
    To: Martin A. Jones
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Hi Marty

    I have a related question. We have a run of perfs we want to move from one GA facility to another.

    I was going to try using Import/Export works but I'm unclear what happens (if anything) to the 'exported' order in the original perf and how payments are handled so  i would be interested to hear from anyone who has tried this scenario.

    It feels like we're going to end up with a copy of the original perf but all the original data including payments remains in that perf? And should i be using a dummy payment method in the import set - if you use a 'real' payment method does that generate a posting?

    Otherwise is there some other means of cancelling/refunding all orders in a perf and re-creating them in a new facility/perf?

    From: Marty Jones <bounce-martyjones7649@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/10/2011 12:53:01 PM

    We just got done doing this. We created a dummy season. In that season we created a dummy performance that used the new facility. Export out of the original performance into excel modify the seats to their new locations if the current rows or seats between the new and old facility do not match. Then do the import. We then rolled from the dummy performance into the new subscription.

     

    If you are using price type mapping between the two packages, I would just drop a comp price map onto each price type in the dummy performance.

     

    Another option using the same dummy setup as above, is to manually seat the patrons into the dummy performance instead of doing the export and then do the rollover. I would do this route if there isn't a ton of subscribers.

     

    By doing this in a dummy season and performance, it is easy to separate out that this not real revenue and does not show up under any real season's reports.

     

    Marty Jones

    Director of Information Services

     

    Omaha Performing Arts
    1200 Douglas Street

    Omaha, Nebraska 68102

    P 402.661.8469

    Marty.Jones@omahaperformingarts.org

    www.omahaperformingarts.org

    For tickets, call Ticket Omaha at 402.345.0606

     

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Nichole Mines
    Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:42 AM
    To: Martin A. Jones
    Subject: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Has anyone exported a show out of a fixed season order into a new order to switch the facility.  What kind of issues did people run into with reporting, or possible double reporting of revenue?




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  • Is your On Account payment method using an On Account Payment Type?  The utility will fail before importing the file if it is.

     

    -Ryan

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Nichole Mines
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:22 PM
    To: Ryan Creps
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    I actually tried posting to on account in our test environment and it did work.

    From: Ryan Creps <bounce-ryancreps9649@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2011 9:18:17 AM

    The Order Import Utility, unfortunately, only takes the following payment types:

    Check(3), Cash(5), Adjustment(6), or Other(7)

    Unfortunately, as it stands, no on account.

    -Ryan

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sheehan
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 10:02 AM
    To: Ryan Creps
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Actually, there is a magical way to refund the original performance.  You can use the Performance Seat Release utility, which will return all seats and put the money on account.  So you would run that after you do your export.

     

    I’m not sure about using an On Account payment method in an order import.  It probably would work.  Ryan, do you see any reason why it wouldn’t work?

     

    Kevin Sheehan

    Senior Documentation & Learning Resources Specialist

    Tessitura Network

    +1 888 643 5778 x 329

    ksheehan@tessituranetwork.com

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Marty Jones
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:42 AM
    To: Kevin Sheehan
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Peter,

     

    When you export, all you are doing is taking a copy of the information from the original performance. The export will not change anything in the original orders or performance.

     

    Now with the import and as long as you are not talking about the new orders being part of a rollover, you would just import into the real performance.

     

    There is no magical way to cancel/refund the original performance. You will have to touch each order and do the return from there.

     

    These are the steps that I would do.

     

    1.       Export the original performance to Excel

    2.       Return the seats in each order and put the money on account

    3.       Modify the seats in the Excel file to match the new facility.

    4.       Import the Excel file into the new facility using the on account money payment method

     

    <insert disclaimer here!> I have not done tried a import using On Account payment methods so not positive if this would work or not. Hopefully, someone from Tessitura can vouch for this.

     

    If all of this is for a rollover, then this will change how you would do this and I can go into detail if this is the case.

     

    Hope this helps,

     

    Marty Jones

    Director of Information Services

     

    Omaha Performing Arts
    1200 Douglas Street

    Omaha, Nebraska 68102

    P 402.661.8469

    Marty.Jones@omahaperformingarts.org

    www.omahaperformingarts.org

    For tickets, call Ticket Omaha at 402.345.0606

     

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Peter Nelson
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:23 AM
    To: Martin A. Jones
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Hi Marty

    I have a related question. We have a run of perfs we want to move from one GA facility to another.

    I was going to try using Import/Export works but I'm unclear what happens (if anything) to the 'exported' order in the original perf and how payments are handled so  i would be interested to hear from anyone who has tried this scenario.

    It feels like we're going to end up with a copy of the original perf but all the original data including payments remains in that perf? And should i be using a dummy payment method in the import set - if you use a 'real' payment method does that generate a posting?

    Otherwise is there some other means of cancelling/refunding all orders in a perf and re-creating them in a new facility/perf?

    From: Marty Jones <bounce-martyjones7649@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/10/2011 12:53:01 PM

    We just got done doing this. We created a dummy season. In that season we created a dummy performance that used the new facility. Export out of the original performance into excel modify the seats to their new locations if the current rows or seats between the new and old facility do not match. Then do the import. We then rolled from the dummy performance into the new subscription.

     

    If you are using price type mapping between the two packages, I would just drop a comp price map onto each price type in the dummy performance.

     

    Another option using the same dummy setup as above, is to manually seat the patrons into the dummy performance instead of doing the export and then do the rollover. I would do this route if there isn't a ton of subscribers.

     

    By doing this in a dummy season and performance, it is easy to separate out that this not real revenue and does not show up under any real season's reports.

     

    Marty Jones

    Director of Information Services

     

    Omaha Performing Arts
    1200 Douglas Street

    Omaha, Nebraska 68102

    P 402.661.8469

    Marty.Jones@omahaperformingarts.org

    www.omahaperformingarts.org

    For tickets, call Ticket Omaha at 402.345.0606

     

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Nichole Mines
    Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 11:42 AM
    To: Martin A. Jones
    Subject: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Import/export and reporting

     

    Has anyone exported a show out of a fixed season order into a new order to switch the facility.  What kind of issues did people run into with reporting, or possible double reporting of revenue?




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