Phantom Comp Tickets

I have a problem with a performance which has 143 comps issued when I look at the Performance Sale Analysis report or in the Performance Summary screen in Season Manager, but has 145 comps in the Performance Sales Summary reports. Even stranger, when I export the sales summary data to Excel, the extra 2 'comps' appear to have £40 against them.

Oh, and our Comp Reason report is showing 142 comps!

I am completely at a loss to think of what could be causing this - any ideas welcome!

 

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  • Hi Katie

    Two suggestions:

    1. Are the comp tickets part of a partially paid order? Not sure if that would produce this outcome but it's made reports look odd for us in the past

    2. Are you running on less than v8.0.0.3? If so there is a small bug that could cause this. From the release notes:

    If an existing order was reloaded, then the operator took an action that causes the order to save but remain open (for example, clicking Print Order), then the operator changed the price type of a seat already in the order, the sli detail rows corresponding to the earlier price would not be deleted as they should be.  This has been fixed

     

    Ben at Birmingham Hippodrome kindly shared with me the below script to identify problematic orders, try running it and see if your phantom order is returned. If so, open a ticket to get the fix.

    select distinct order_no 

    from t_sub_lineitem

    where sli_no IN (select sli_no from t_sli_detail where batch_no > 0

    group by sli_no

    having count(sli_no) > 1)

     

    Siobhan

  • Thanks I’ll give it a go!

    K

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Siobhan Bennetts
    Sent: 12 May 2009 14:56
    To: Katherine Green
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Phantom Comp Tickets

     

    Hi Katie

    Two suggestions:

    1. Are the comp tickets part of a partially paid order? Not sure if that would produce this outcome but it's made reports look odd for us in the past

    2. Are you running on less than v8.0.0.3? If so there is a small bug that could cause this. From the release notes:

    If an existing order was reloaded, then the operator took an action that causes the order to save but remain open (for example, clicking Print Order), then the operator changed the price type of a seat already in the order, the sli detail rows corresponding to the earlier price would not be deleted as they should be.  This has been fixed

     

    Ben at Birmingham Hippodrome kindly shared with me the below script to identify problematic orders, try running it and see if your phantom order is returned. If so, open a ticket to get the fix.

    select distinct order_no 

    from t_sub_lineitem

    where sli_no IN (select sli_no from t_sli_detail where batch_no > 0

    group by sli_no

    having count(sli_no) > 1)

     

    Siobhan

    From: Katie Green <bounce-katiegreen8488@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2009 8:10:22 AM

    I have a problem with a performance which has 143 comps issued when I look at the Performance Sale Analysis report or in the Performance Summary screen in Season Manager, but has 145 comps in the Performance Sales Summary reports. Even stranger, when I export the sales summary data to Excel, the extra 2 'comps' appear to have £40 against them.

    Oh, and our Comp Reason report is showing 142 comps!

    I am completely at a loss to think of what could be causing this - any ideas welcome!

     




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  • We had a spate of orders like this that related to Siobhan’s point 2. This problem appeared in one of the earlier iterations of 8.0 and was fixed in .3, but the problem orders created earlier can linger post-upgrade (we tended to come across them when settling events).

     

    Comps have often been the problem for us, usually because the seat was reserved at a value initially then the Price Type changed to comp prior to issuing. If the order is corrupt the sli-details retain the original values, then your reports get confused.

     

    peter nelson business analyst

    information systems

    pnelson@SYDNEYOPERAHOUSE.COM

    T+61 2 9250 7180  F+61 2 9251 7821 

     

    SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE BENNELONG POINT

    GPO BOX 4274, SYDNEY NSW 2001, AUSTRALIA

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    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Katie Green
    Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:56
    To: Peter Nelson
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Phantom Comp Tickets

     

    Thanks I’ll give it a go!

    K

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Siobhan Bennetts
    Sent: 12 May 2009 14:56
    To: Katherine Green
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Phantom Comp Tickets

     

    Hi Katie

    Two suggestions:

    1. Are the comp tickets part of a partially paid order? Not sure if that would produce this outcome but it's made reports look odd for us in the past

    2. Are you running on less than v8.0.0.3? If so there is a small bug that could cause this. From the release notes:

    If an existing order was reloaded, then the operator took an action that causes the order to save but remain open (for example, clicking Print Order), then the operator changed the price type of a seat already in the order, the sli detail rows corresponding to the earlier price would not be deleted as they should be.  This has been fixed

     

    Ben at Birmingham Hippodrome kindly shared with me the below script to identify problematic orders, try running it and see if your phantom order is returned. If so, open a ticket to get the fix.

    select distinct order_no 

    from t_sub_lineitem

    where sli_no IN (select sli_no from t_sli_detail where batch_no > 0

    group by sli_no

    having count(sli_no) > 1)

     

    Siobhan

    From: Katie Green <bounce-katiegreen8488@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2009 8:10:22 AM

    I have a problem with a performance which has 143 comps issued when I look at the Performance Sale Analysis report or in the Performance Summary screen in Season Manager, but has 145 comps in the Performance Sales Summary reports. Even stranger, when I export the sales summary data to Excel, the extra 2 'comps' appear to have £40 against them.

    Oh, and our Comp Reason report is showing 142 comps!

    I am completely at a loss to think of what could be causing this - any ideas welcome!

     




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  • Hi

    There's just one caveat to the below script; If you have more than 1 price map per price type you will find that 'regular' orders may also been returned - so just be cautious of this. We use one price map per price type, so this issue doesn't affect us.

    Ben

     

    select distinct order_no 

    from t_sub_lineitem

    where sli_no IN (select sli_no from t_sli_detail where batch_no > 0

    group by sli_no

    having count(sli_no) > 1)

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  • Hi

    There's just one caveat to the below script; If you have more than 1 price map per price type you will find that 'regular' orders may also been returned - so just be cautious of this. We use one price map per price type, so this issue doesn't affect us.

    Ben

     

    select distinct order_no 

    from t_sub_lineitem

    where sli_no IN (select sli_no from t_sli_detail where batch_no > 0

    group by sli_no

    having count(sli_no) > 1)

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  • Thanks for all your replies – Ben you’re right, this won’t work for us unfortunately. We’re still looking into it…

     

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Ben Magson
    Sent: 13 May 2009 16:02
    To: Katherine Green
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] RE: Phantom Comp Tickets

     

    Hi

    There's just one caveat to the below script; If you have more than 1 price map per price type you will find that 'regular' orders may also been returned - so just be cautious of this. We use one price map per price type, so this issue doesn't affect us.

    Ben

     

    select distinct order_no 

    from t_sub_lineitem

    where sli_no IN (select sli_no from t_sli_detail where batch_no > 0

    group by sli_no

    having count(sli_no) > 1)

    From: Peter Nelson <bounce-peternelson1130@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2009 7:19:32 PM

    We had a spate of orders like this that related to Siobhan’s point 2. This problem appeared in one of the earlier iterations of 8.0 and was fixed in .3, but the problem orders created earlier can linger post-upgrade (we tended to come across them when settling events).

     

    Comps have often been the problem for us, usually because the seat was reserved at a value initially then the Price Type changed to comp prior to issuing. If the order is corrupt the sli-details retain the original values, then your reports get confused.

     

    peter nelson business analyst

    information systems

    pnelson@SYDNEYOPERAHOUSE.COM

    T+61 2 9250 7180  F+61 2 9251 7821 

     

    SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE BENNELONG POINT

    GPO BOX 4274, SYDNEY NSW 2001, AUSTRALIA

    SYDNEYOPERAHOUSE.COM

    Image removed by sender. http://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/logos/LogoOrange.gif

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Katie Green
    Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 01:56
    To: Peter Nelson
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Phantom Comp Tickets

     

    Thanks I’ll give it a go!

    K

     

    From: Tessitura Ticketing Forum [mailto:forums-ticketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Siobhan Bennetts
    Sent: 12 May 2009 14:56
    To: Katherine Green
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Phantom Comp Tickets

     

    Hi Katie

    Two suggestions:

    1. Are the comp tickets part of a partially paid order? Not sure if that would produce this outcome but it's made reports look odd for us in the past

    2. Are you running on less than v8.0.0.3? If so there is a small bug that could cause this. From the release notes:

    If an existing order was reloaded, then the operator took an action that causes the order to save but remain open (for example, clicking Print Order), then the operator changed the price type of a seat already in the order, the sli detail rows corresponding to the earlier price would not be deleted as they should be.  This has been fixed

     

    Ben at Birmingham Hippodrome kindly shared with me the below script to identify problematic orders, try running it and see if your phantom order is returned. If so, open a ticket to get the fix.

    select distinct order_no 

    from t_sub_lineitem

    where sli_no IN (select sli_no from t_sli_detail where batch_no > 0

    group by sli_no

    having count(sli_no) > 1)

     

    Siobhan

    From: Katie Green <bounce-katiegreen8488@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 5/12/2009 8:10:22 AM

    I have a problem with a performance which has 143 comps issued when I look at the Performance Sale Analysis report or in the Performance Summary screen in Season Manager, but has 145 comps in the Performance Sales Summary reports. Even stranger, when I export the sales summary data to Excel, the extra 2 'comps' appear to have £40 against them.

    Oh, and our Comp Reason report is showing 142 comps!

    I am completely at a loss to think of what could be causing this - any ideas welcome!

     




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