Canceled Concert Refund vs. Ticket Donation

Hello,

 

We have several concerts that were canceled due to venue damages from our flood in May. We have given our patrons the opportunity to receive a refund, put the money on account for future use or donate the tickets to receive tax credit. The patrons have been notified via phone and email of these options with a deadline. We plan on donating the tickets and sending a tax credit letter to those who do not respond by the deadline. Has anyone had any experience with refunds or ticket donations from canceled concerts or know of a law that would prevent us from doing this?

 

Thank you,

 

Emily Shannon

Nashville Symphony

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  • Hi Emily,

     

    I’m not sure what the legal ramifications are in Tennessee but we do have a process we’ve set up to be compliant with Florida law.  Florida state law requires that “abandoned funds” be remitted to the state so we never truly consider them abandoned.  To avoid turning the money over to the state, we do these conversions but are required to make the funds available if they ever do show up.  We include this information in our policies so people are aware that if they don’t present by the deadline, we consider their intent is a donation.

     

    What we do with “abandoned funds” is convert them to a donation after a specific deadline.  This includes refunds for cancelled shows as well as old account credits and gift certificates.  To do this we set it up as a type of gift certificate which allows us to do them in masse through the gift certificate expiration program that comes with Tessitura.   This way we have a clean record with names and credit IDs for auditing purposes.  We apply all of them to a method of payment called “converted donation” so it’s easily trackable (and reversible) within their account.  If they ever show up later, we convert it back.

     

    We probably get only 2 or 3 a year show up out of the literally hundreds of credits that I convert every year.  Plus our development department loves the “windfall” when I do this every 6 months. 

     

    Good luck!

     

     

    Susan M. Crockett

    Chief Information Officer

    Ruth Eckerd Hall

    1111 N. McMullen Booth Rd.  l  Clearwater, FL 33759

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    From: Emily Shannon [mailto:bounce-emilyshannon7794@tessituranetwork.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:06 PM
    To: Susan Crockett
    Subject: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Canceled Concert Refund vs. Ticket Donation

     

    Hello,

     

    We have several concerts that were canceled due to venue damages from our flood in May. We have given our patrons the opportunity to receive a refund, put the money on account for future use or donate the tickets to receive tax credit. The patrons have been notified via phone and email of these options with a deadline. We plan on donating the tickets and sending a tax credit letter to those who do not respond by the deadline. Has anyone had any experience with refunds or ticket donations from canceled concerts or know of a law that would prevent us from doing this?

     

    Thank you,

     

    Emily Shannon

    Nashville Symphony




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  • Hi Emily,

     

    I’m not sure what the legal ramifications are in Tennessee but we do have a process we’ve set up to be compliant with Florida law.  Florida state law requires that “abandoned funds” be remitted to the state so we never truly consider them abandoned.  To avoid turning the money over to the state, we do these conversions but are required to make the funds available if they ever do show up.  We include this information in our policies so people are aware that if they don’t present by the deadline, we consider their intent is a donation.

     

    What we do with “abandoned funds” is convert them to a donation after a specific deadline.  This includes refunds for cancelled shows as well as old account credits and gift certificates.  To do this we set it up as a type of gift certificate which allows us to do them in masse through the gift certificate expiration program that comes with Tessitura.   This way we have a clean record with names and credit IDs for auditing purposes.  We apply all of them to a method of payment called “converted donation” so it’s easily trackable (and reversible) within their account.  If they ever show up later, we convert it back.

     

    We probably get only 2 or 3 a year show up out of the literally hundreds of credits that I convert every year.  Plus our development department loves the “windfall” when I do this every 6 months. 

     

    Good luck!

     

     

    Susan M. Crockett

    Chief Information Officer

    Ruth Eckerd Hall

    1111 N. McMullen Booth Rd.  l  Clearwater, FL 33759

    727.712.2757   l   Fax: 727.791.6020

    scrockett@rutheckerdhall.net

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    Tickets to all of our great shows are on sale now at RuthEckerdHall.com

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    From: Emily Shannon [mailto:bounce-emilyshannon7794@tessituranetwork.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:06 PM
    To: Susan Crockett
    Subject: [Tessitura Ticketing Forum] Canceled Concert Refund vs. Ticket Donation

     

    Hello,

     

    We have several concerts that were canceled due to venue damages from our flood in May. We have given our patrons the opportunity to receive a refund, put the money on account for future use or donate the tickets to receive tax credit. The patrons have been notified via phone and email of these options with a deadline. We plan on donating the tickets and sending a tax credit letter to those who do not respond by the deadline. Has anyone had any experience with refunds or ticket donations from canceled concerts or know of a law that would prevent us from doing this?

     

    Thank you,

     

    Emily Shannon

    Nashville Symphony




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