Hi,
Has anyone had any problems with 'ghost' associations in output sets? I have an output set that includes the following fields:
Association Id#
Association Type
Association Name
Association Inactive
I've found a constituent (say Mr X) that has their own Customer No returned as an Association Id twice (e.g. associated with themselves twice), for two different association types, with two different names (In this example, Mrs X and Mr X). The Association Inactive field returns 'N' for both (so technically both should be active).
When I look at the constituent's record, no associations appear. Has anyone else had this issue?
Thanks,
Sam
Kelly
There are a couple of output set elements in the Output Set Cookbook that might do what you are after or at least be a starting point for you.
http://www.tessituranetwork.com/tlcc/2015/Pres/03-55_Output_Set_Builder_Cookbook_for_v12.docx
Regards
Sandra
From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Enderwick Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 11:41 PM To: Sandra Ashby <sashby@tessituranetwork.com> Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] 'Ghost' Associations in Output Sets
Hello,
I know this is an old post but wondered if you had found a solution. I have just gone to create a Output set for Associated records and am coming up blank. If the ref table was taken out of action, I would have expected them to have been updated given how in use Associations and Affiliations are now.
I have created a view that pulls out the association data but am having trouble getting it to Output. Anyone already done this and have any advice of what I may have missed?
From: Brian Wilbur Grundstrom <bounce-brianwilburgrundstrom7163@tessituranetwork.com> Sent: 6/13/2013 8:52:51 AM
As a start, I would look at tr_query_element to see if it is pointing to the old tx_xref table that is now obsolete.
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From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Laine Kyllonen Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:01 PM To: Brian W. Grundstrom Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] 'Ghost' Associations in Output Sets
We had a similar problem with attributes at the museum, and discovered that it was because the attribute was not added to the TX_CUST_KEYWORD system table, meaning that the values were not visible in the client.
I’d recommend checking to see if this problem is across all constituent types or not, as if it’s only a problem for some constituent types it may be as simple as adding the constituent type to a system table. (Although you’d have to check with your IT department for the system table relating to association types.)
Hope this helps,
Laine
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From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Beth Hawryluk Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:49 AM To: lkyllonen@smm.org Subject: Re: [Tessitura Technical Forum] 'Ghost' Associations in Output Sets
Hi Sam,
We definitely have that here. I don't know the details behind it but I do know that this happened during the conversion of our contribution data from Raiser's Edge to Tessitura.
Luckily for us all of these associations have the same Association Type and it is a type we do not use for any other reason. So we can easily identify them all by creating a list or using SQL.
Our summer project for the development team is to go through these associations. If any are valid and need to be kept they will make sure it is added to the constituent record using an appropriate type. Once that is complete I intend to simply wipe out the bad conversion ones so they no longer exist.
As to why they don't show up in the constituent record - I can't say. The weird thing here is that some of them show up and others don't.
You aren't alone!
Beth
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Hi Sandra,
Thank you!
I have updated the Output Set elements using the Cookbook. Changed the view slightly as I wanted the first and last name separated. All looks good in SSMS, however, when I Execute the Output set with a Test list that has an association those columns are blank. I'm not getting any errors so I'm not sure where I've gone wrong.
Any suggestions?