NSCAN - Wireless Security

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Those of you using NSCAN...did you have to implement any additional, beyond the normal security measures for the wireless network? We have a venue that has its own wireless network but I'm wondering if we should set up a separate wireless network for the scanners only.

  • Gloria,

     

    Here at AT&T Performing Arts Center, we have a separate VLAN for our scanners.  We have a property with 2 buildings plus our business offices are in a separate building a couple of blocks away.  The VLAN is accessible by all scanners no matter what building they are in.  We have experienced no problems with it and it seems to work great having the scanners on their own VLAN.  The one problem with the VLAN is that if the actual wireless network goes down, so does the VLAN which makes the scanners not useable.

     

    Teresa

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Gloria Ormsby
    Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:20 AM
    To: Teresa Dean
    Subject: [Tessitura Technical Forum] NSCAN - Wireless Security

     

    Those of you using NSCAN...did you have to implement any additional, beyond the normal security measures for the wireless network? We have a venue that has its own wireless network but I'm wondering if we should set up a separate wireless network for the scanners only.




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    We have both a public and private wireless network.  We use the private for our scanners which requires a password to access.  We did not have to add any special security measures for the scanners, however we did find that we had to lessen the security type from our preferred WPA-PSK2 down to WPA because the scanners were extremely slow and timing out when accessing the server when the wireless network was set at the higher security level.

     

     

    Penny Tabor

    IT Manager

    Midland Center for the Arts

    Midland, MI 48640

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    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Gloria Ormsby
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    To: Tabor, Penny
    Subject: [Tessitura Technical Forum] NSCAN - Wireless Security

     

    Those of you using NSCAN...did you have to implement any additional, beyond the normal security measures for the wireless network? We have a venue that has its own wireless network but I'm wondering if we should set up a separate wireless network for the scanners only.




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  • We have the access control on a separate WLAN which uses a unique VLAN, MAC address restrictions, static IPs, and firewall with only the 6 IP addresses assigned to the scanners allowed through the firewall. We went a little extreme there, mainly due to PCI - since it is a wireless network (albeit private) and it is talking to the WebAPI (which is in itself a layer of security) we just wanted to be extra diligent in being able to confidently address the requirements.

    The ability to have multiple WLANS with varying security and setup is a nice benefit of the additional investment of a Cisco or similar enterprise class wireless controller.

  • We addressed this with David Judd when he was here for a different reason.  I was concerned with exposing the NSCAN API to the internet for fear it could be used to collect CC info from Tessitura.  David assured us that there is never any CC information passed by nscan.  Because of that these scanners should be safe to use over any network.  While I do think that a WPA protected network is a good choice it shouldn't really matter if they are run over an open network since the snooper could only get a patron name and seat number returned to them.  That being said I don't think I would ever use an open network for them but they should not pose any PCI issue at all.

    -Rich

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    That was my assessment as well – but we went ahead and used WPA2 encryption

    We have a different WLAN that is open

     

    Nathan Campbell
    Manager of Support and Systems Analysis
    Dallas Symphony Orchestra
    Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
    Schlegel Administrative Suites
    2301 Flora Street
    Dallas, Texas 75201

    214-871-4026 - phone
    214-953-1218 - fax

    n.campbell@dalsym.com
    www.dallassymphony.com

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    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Rich Tepper
    Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:31 PM
    To: Nathan Campbell
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Technical Forum] NSCAN - Wireless Security

     

    We addressed this with David Judd when he was here for a different reason.  I was concerned with exposing the NSCAN API to the internet for fear it could be used to collect CC info from Tessitura.  David assured us that there is never any CC information passed by nscan.  Because of that these scanners should be safe to use over any network.  While I do think that a WPA protected network is a good choice it shouldn't really matter if they are run over an open network since the snooper could only get a patron name and seat number returned to them.  That being said I don't think I would ever use an open network for them but they should not pose any PCI issue at all.

    -Rich

    From: Nathan Campbell <bounce-nathancampbell1231@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 11/3/2010 11:00:28 AM

    We have the access control on a separate WLAN which uses a unique VLAN, MAC address restrictions, static IPs, and firewall with only the 6 IP addresses assigned to the scanners allowed through the firewall. We went a little extreme there, mainly due to PCI - since it is a wireless network (albeit private) and it is talking to the WebAPI (which is in itself a layer of security) we just wanted to be extra diligent in being able to confidently address the requirements.

    The ability to have multiple WLANS with varying security and setup is a nice benefit of the additional investment of a Cisco or similar enterprise class wireless controller.




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    Thank you everyone for your input. It is very helpful.

     

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Campbell
    Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:41 PM
    To: Gloria Ormsby
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Technical Forum] NSCAN - Wireless Security

     

    That was my assessment as well – but we went ahead and used WPA2 encryption

    We have a different WLAN that is open

     

    Nathan Campbell
    Manager of Support and Systems Analysis
    Dallas Symphony Orchestra
    Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center
    Schlegel Administrative Suites
    2301 Flora Street
    Dallas, Texas 75201

    214-871-4026 - phone
    214-953-1218 - fax

    n.campbell@dalsym.com
    www.dallassymphony.com

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    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Rich Tepper
    Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:31 PM
    To: Nathan Campbell
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Technical Forum] NSCAN - Wireless Security

     

    We addressed this with David Judd when he was here for a different reason.  I was concerned with exposing the NSCAN API to the internet for fear it could be used to collect CC info from Tessitura.  David assured us that there is never any CC information passed by nscan.  Because of that these scanners should be safe to use over any network.  While I do think that a WPA protected network is a good choice it shouldn't really matter if they are run over an open network since the snooper could only get a patron name and seat number returned to them.  That being said I don't think I would ever use an open network for them but they should not pose any PCI issue at all.

    -Rich

    From: Nathan Campbell <bounce-nathancampbell1231@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 11/3/2010 11:00:28 AM

    We have the access control on a separate WLAN which uses a unique VLAN, MAC address restrictions, static IPs, and firewall with only the 6 IP addresses assigned to the scanners allowed through the firewall. We went a little extreme there, mainly due to PCI - since it is a wireless network (albeit private) and it is talking to the WebAPI (which is in itself a layer of security) we just wanted to be extra diligent in being able to confidently address the requirements.

    The ability to have multiple WLANS with varying security and setup is a nice benefit of the additional investment of a Cisco or similar enterprise class wireless controller.




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  • I think it’s better to have a separate WLAN only for NScan so that you can apply maximum security which may not be a good idea for a general use WLAN.

     

    We have a totally separate WLAN for access control. We are using WPA encryption (since both your router and scanner model have to support it you may not always have the choice to go for the maximum wireless data encryption), MAC address filtering, static IP, and we also don’t broadcast SSID as an extra security measure so that nobody can see the network and try to connect to it.

     

    Mo

     

    Mohiuddin Faruqe

    Business Analyst

    The National Ballet of Canada

    From: Tessitura Technical Forum [mailto:forums-technical@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Gloria Ormsby
    Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:20 AM
    To: Mohiuddin Faruqe
    Subject: [Tessitura Technical Forum] NSCAN - Wireless Security

     

    Those of you using NSCAN...did you have to implement any additional, beyond the normal security measures for the wireless network? We have a venue that has its own wireless network but I'm wondering if we should set up a separate wireless network for the scanners only.




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