Query Elements for Lists, Etc.

Hello,

Could anyone provide guidance for creating query elements for lists?  Are the same query elements used for Extraction Manager and Output Sets?  I'm hoping that if I create one, it will be available in all three tools.  As we're transitioning to a consortium, I've moved patron phone numbers below the line so they may be control grouped.  However, I learned that Tess users can no longer pull phone numbers for lists and I'm guessing it's related to the phone number type changes that moved the number below the line on the General Tab and the control grouping.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Shereen

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  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization

    Lists and extractions use the same criteria (set up in T_KEYWORD).  Output set elements come from TR_QUERY_ELEMENT.  If you want to, you can create a paramter to attache to the output set element (TR_QUERY_ELEMENT_PARAMETER).  This way you can build an element that pulls the phone number of the user's choosing in the output set.

    Reading through the docs on creating custom elements is strongly recommended.  It's fairly easy to create them, but there are some things that could produce unexpected results if you don't set things up with options appropriate for what you are shooting for.

  • Thank you, Levi.  You have been my savior this week!  Are you referring to the Tess Help System or are these docs located elsewhere?  I can't seem to locate them.

  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Shereen Marino

    Hi Shereen,

    Try searching in the Tess help system for the system table names, T_KEYWORD and TR_QUERY_ELEMENT.

    If you're new to custom output set elements, you might check out parts 2 and 3 of the T-Cast Introduction to Output Set Builder for v11. The Output Set Builder Cookbook (linked on that page) is a tremendously helpful document full of examples that I keep coming back to. It sounds like you might be more after custom list criteria than output sets, but there are some similarities and I found this to be a pretty good jumping off point for my own needs.

  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Shereen Marino

    The Tess Community saved my bacon on a daily basis when I was getting started. Always have time to put back into the karma pool :)

    The help system will have plenty on how to build lists, extractions and output sets. But making custom elements is found in the Learning Resources section of the Tess website.  I'd suggest starting with the conference presentations from the last TLCC (http://www.tessituranetwork.com/network/Conference/Conference%20Materials%20Archive/2013%20Conference%20Materials.aspx)

     

    Search the page for "Output Set" and you'll find some good presentations. I would especially check out the Ouput Set Cookbook.  It has some helpful links to other resources included. Not as helpful without a presenter setting them up for you, but good overviews. There are often questions in the forums as well. The community search isn't an intuitive page to get to, but it helps you narrow things down (http://www.tessituranetwork.com/community/search/)

     

    And if all else fails......  Post in the forums.  Or make friends with some fellow Tess nerds and give them a call    We're always happy to help. :)

  • Thank you, Matthew.  Yes, I'm new to custom elements and I need to get up to speed as soon as possible to address an issue.  I'll check out the T-Casts and cookbook to get started.

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