Sad Sorting Situations

Is there any quick way to get the output of the User Defined Format from a List report (under Labels and Letters) to sort alphabetically by last name after it's been saved to excel format?  Or am I forced to write a quick report in SSRS that simply incorporates the sort_name field from T_CUSTOMER?

And please don't invoke the dreaded INFOMAKER...(cue Wilhelm scream)

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  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization
    So you use output sets for your acknowledgments...very interesting.
     
    And I agree 100% about adding sort_name!
     
    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Spieler
    Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:07 AM
    To: Jeri Henderson
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] Sad Sorting Situations

    Correction to the query element setup:

    Data Select = !.sort_name

    Data From = T_CUSTOMER

    Explanation: I had followed other elements set up using information from T_CUSTOMER, and tried the sort_name/Customer settings, which worked when running output sets via Reports. Extractions using those output sets, however, didn't work.

    Note to Ryan Creps: shouldn't sort_name be added to the data constellation that is Customer?

    Lucie

     

    From: Lucie Spieler <bounce-luciespieler8144@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 9/27/2012 4:45:14 PM

    Go to the TR_QUERY_ELEMENT system table. Add a row:

    Description = Customer_sort_name

    Category = Constituent

    Data Select = sort_name

    Data From = Customer

    Data Where = [blank]

    Control Group = (Default Control Group)

    Single Row = [checked box]

    Primary Group Default = [unchecked box]

     

    This gives you the element that sorts by last name the way it appears in the header.

     

    Go to Tools and select Output Set Builder. Choose New Set from the buttons at the bottom of the screen.

     

    Here’s what I’ve added to my query, in the order I have them:

    From the Constituent folder:

                    Salutation_outside_line1

                    Salutation_outside_line2

                    Salutation_business_title

    From the Address Information folder:

                    Address_street3

                    Address_street2

                    Address_street1

                    Address_city

                    Address_state

                    Address_postal_code

                    Address_country_desc

    From the Constitutent folder:

                    Salutation_inside

                    Salutation_sal_type

                    Customer_sort_name

     

    I used to have Customer_lname and Customer_fname, but I don’t think that’s useful anymore. I’ve named my query the eloquent “Mailing-Inside Sal-Sort Name.”

     

    The nice thing about queries is that you can put in what you want, in the order you want them, and they pull that way when you run reports or extractions using them. You get to pick mailing date, mailing purpose, and salutation, just as in User Defined Output from a List. You just can’t have your results auto-sort in various ways.

     

    The only gotcha about using sort name is that deceased people don’t have one—although, for me, that’s actually a plus. If I am running a mailing list, this gives me a quick and easy way to catch patrons who should not be there, because they will be at the top of my list, out of alpha order, when I sort.

     

    Lucie

     

     

     

    _____________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Editor, Season Program Book

    FLORIDA GRAND opera




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  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization
    So you use output sets for your acknowledgments...very interesting.
     
    And I agree 100% about adding sort_name!
     
    From: Tessitura Next Generation Forum [mailto:forums-nextgeneration@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Spieler
    Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:07 AM
    To: Jeri Henderson
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Next Generation Forum] Sad Sorting Situations

    Correction to the query element setup:

    Data Select = !.sort_name

    Data From = T_CUSTOMER

    Explanation: I had followed other elements set up using information from T_CUSTOMER, and tried the sort_name/Customer settings, which worked when running output sets via Reports. Extractions using those output sets, however, didn't work.

    Note to Ryan Creps: shouldn't sort_name be added to the data constellation that is Customer?

    Lucie

     

    From: Lucie Spieler <bounce-luciespieler8144@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 9/27/2012 4:45:14 PM

    Go to the TR_QUERY_ELEMENT system table. Add a row:

    Description = Customer_sort_name

    Category = Constituent

    Data Select = sort_name

    Data From = Customer

    Data Where = [blank]

    Control Group = (Default Control Group)

    Single Row = [checked box]

    Primary Group Default = [unchecked box]

     

    This gives you the element that sorts by last name the way it appears in the header.

     

    Go to Tools and select Output Set Builder. Choose New Set from the buttons at the bottom of the screen.

     

    Here’s what I’ve added to my query, in the order I have them:

    From the Constituent folder:

                    Salutation_outside_line1

                    Salutation_outside_line2

                    Salutation_business_title

    From the Address Information folder:

                    Address_street3

                    Address_street2

                    Address_street1

                    Address_city

                    Address_state

                    Address_postal_code

                    Address_country_desc

    From the Constitutent folder:

                    Salutation_inside

                    Salutation_sal_type

                    Customer_sort_name

     

    I used to have Customer_lname and Customer_fname, but I don’t think that’s useful anymore. I’ve named my query the eloquent “Mailing-Inside Sal-Sort Name.”

     

    The nice thing about queries is that you can put in what you want, in the order you want them, and they pull that way when you run reports or extractions using them. You get to pick mailing date, mailing purpose, and salutation, just as in User Defined Output from a List. You just can’t have your results auto-sort in various ways.

     

    The only gotcha about using sort name is that deceased people don’t have one—although, for me, that’s actually a plus. If I am running a mailing list, this gives me a quick and easy way to catch patrons who should not be there, because they will be at the top of my list, out of alpha order, when I sort.

     

    Lucie

     

     

     

    _____________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Editor, Season Program Book

    FLORIDA GRAND opera




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