Has anyone else had an issue regarding the way Wordfly handles Hard Bounces?
We've had many patrons complaining that they're no longer receiving our emails. Finally, their support team informed me that in WordFly any Hard Bounce email responses are automatically removed from any new lists.
Which basically means that after a single hard bounce an address will not be imported automatically into a list.
This is a major problem because not every hard bounce is an invalid email address! It would be nice if they had Hard Bounce sub categories they could set up as Promo Responses like:* domain unknown (bad or non-existent)* user unknown (address is invalid and/or failure is permanent per bounce message)* bad address syntax* high unknown address percentage (email blocked due to the high quantity/percentage of unknown or inactive addresses on your list)* other
In that scenario we could create our own algorithms for suppression lists.
Has anyone faced this issue as well? Anyone know of a workaround??
Thanks!
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Being a bit of a newbie, I’d love to know specifically how you override all manual imports that are excluded due to hard bounces. How do you set the criteria for that?
Thanks.
Linda Graves
From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Jamie O'BrienSent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:22 PMTo: Linda GravesSubject: RE: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] Wordfly Hard Bounce Issues
I agree about disliking the one-strike-you’re-out calculation. In Tessitura, we control the procedure so the record itself is not re-labeled until multiple tries. Then, because I address real hard bounces within my extractions, I override all manual imports that are excluded due to hard bounces. Unfortunately, the WordFly default “protections” can’t be overridden with triggered campaigns.
I also have issues with the fact that revisions within our online preference center are not reflected within WordFly. If someone clicks unsubscribe in an email but then re-subscribes on our website—which our unsubscribe page refers them to, noting they can manage their subscriptions rather than fully disconnect from us—well, it’s more labor-intensive than it ought to be.
I have voiced this issue to WordFly, particularly in regard to triggered functionality and they agreed it was something to take another look at again. I do not know where that item is on their development list, but they have acknowledged the system as is can be self-defeating. The more of us that ask for improvement in this area though, the higher a priority it will likely become.
Jamie O'BrienMarketing & Communications ManagerThe New 42nd Street, Inc.229 W. 42nd StreetNew York, NY 10036-7299www.newvictory.org
From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Trevor SylvestroSent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:22 PMTo: Jamie O'BrienSubject: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] Wordfly Hard Bounce Issues
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WordFly support team gave me these instructions:
Ok, let's review how to override the hard bounce. If you look on the tab "lists and data" in this account you'll see all the lists he is on. Any list with a red dot indicates that he has been removed. Hover over the list with a red dot and select "View list summary". This will take you to the list summary page, under the section "Subscriber Import Issues" check the box next to his record and in the Actions drop down select the option that is best for the override.
When I went about doing it that way I found it to be VERY time consuming and it only resolves the problem one constituent at a time.
I think Heather's workaround approach is spot on as far as being the easiest and most efficient way to override WordFly's suppression of Hard Bounce addresses. Linda, when you import a list scroll down to the bottom where it says "Subscriber Import Issues" and go to the Hard Bounces tab. All the way to the right there's a drop down that says Actions... Right below that you can select a box that will check all the addresses in view. Then click Actions... and select override for this list. It should then see the number next to subscribers currently in the list go up.
I haven't actually sent out an email campaign yet using this method but in theory it looks like it should work? Again, this only helps you out with standard emails...