Phone number for list criteria

I'm trying to pull lists for our upcoming telemarketing campaign and I'm trying to weed out people with no phone number from my lists, but I can't seem to find the proper criteria for this. Is there a way to do this in extractions / lists?

  • I use the following suppression when dealing with Phone 1&2 in extractions

    Phone Type IN (1,2)
    Phone Primary Indicator DOES NOT HAVE ('Y')
    OR
    Phone Type DOES NOTE HAVE (1,2)

    Seems to work.



    [edited by: Ryan Rowell at 1:29 PM (GMT -6) on 13 Jul 2011]
  • Brian,

     

    In List Manager (or Extraction Manager), under the Constituent folder, there’s a criteria item for “Phone Type”.  We use the following criteria:

     

    Phone Type DOES NOT HAVE Phone 1 and Phone 2

     

    This weeds out people who don’t have any primary phone numbers in their accounts……

     

    Christy

    Seattle Rep

     

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Brian O'Neill
    Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:07 AM
    To: Christy Carlson
    Subject: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] Phone number for list criteria

     

    I'm trying to pull lists for our upcoming telemarketing campaign and I'm trying to weed out people with no phone number from my lists, but I can't seem to find the proper criteria for this. Is there a way to do this in extractions / lists?




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  • Ah, I just realized that my "Phone Primary Indicator" is custom and that "Phone Type" was added by me as well.
    Christy, does your phone type use vs_phone for the detail table because that doesn't only look at primary numbers.

    Brian, I'll get back to you on how I have the primary indicator set up.

  • Honestly, Ryan, I have *no* idea.  J  I didn’t realize that was a custom element – normally when we add things to List Manager, we add an “SRT” prefix to it to indicate that it’s not standard.  This element doesn’t have that.

     

    Christy

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Rowell
    Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:02 PM
    To: Christy Carlson
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] Phone number for list criteria

     

    Ah, I just realized that my "Phone Primary Indicator" is custom and that "Phone Type" was added by me as well.
    Christy, does your phone type use vs_phone for the detail table because that doesn't only look at primary numbers.

    Brian, I'll get back to you on how I have the primary indicator set up.

    From: Christy Carlson <bounce-christycarlson2662@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 7/13/2011 1:36:09 PM

    Brian,

     

    In List Manager (or Extraction Manager), under the Constituent folder, there’s a criteria item for “Phone Type”.  We use the following criteria:

     

    Phone Type DOES NOT HAVE Phone 1 and Phone 2

     

    This weeds out people who don’t have any primary phone numbers in their accounts……

     

    Christy

    Seattle Rep

     

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Brian O'Neill
    Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:07 AM
    To: Christy Carlson
    Subject: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] Phone number for list criteria

     

    I'm trying to pull lists for our upcoming telemarketing campaign and I'm trying to weed out people with no phone number from my lists, but I can't seem to find the proper criteria for this. Is there a way to do this in extractions / lists?




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  • Okay, so I created a local view based on vs_phone and simply added the "c.primary_ind" into the select statement.
    If you just use
    Phone Type DOES NOTE HAVE (1,2)
    based on the vs_phone view it won't suppress people with no primary numbers that have non-primary or inactive addresses with phone numbers assigned to them.
    You may or may not want to suppress these people but I think normally you probably do.
    Does that make sense?

    Christy, if you right click the criterion in the folder it will tell you what table/view it is pulled from.

    Cheers!

     

  • Thanks Ryan, I'll give that a try!

  • Ryan

    I've not played with custom criteria/indicators - what's the best method for implementing this?  Would it be "just" adding to the end of the SQL in List Manager?

    Sean

     

    Unknown said:

    I use the following suppression when dealing with Phone 1&2 in extractions

    Phone Type IN (1,2)
    Phone Primary Indicator DOES NOT HAVE ('Y')
    OR
    Phone Type DOES NOTE HAVE (1,2)

    Seems to work.

     

  • Part 2 of my How do I do this?

    Unknown said:

    Ah, I just realized that my "Phone Primary Indicator" is custom and that "Phone Type" was added by me as well.
    Christy, does your phone type use vs_phone for the detail table because that doesn't only look at primary numbers.

    Brian, I'll get back to you on how I have the primary indicator set up.

     

  • Hi Sean,

    I'd recommend setting up criteria elements in t_keyword, but first you will need a local view if you want to keep out non-primary phone numbers.

    Here is the view I use, which is basically just the normal vs_phone view with primary_ind added

     

    USE [Impresario]
    GO

    SET ANSI_NULLS OFF
    GO

    SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
    GO

    CREATE View [dbo].[LVS_PHONE]
    AS

    Select    a.*, b.edit_ind, c.primary_ind
    From    t_phone a
        JOIN vrs_phone_type b ON a.type = b.id
        LEFT OUTER JOIN vs_address c ON a.address_no = c.address_no
    Where    ISNULL(a.address_no,0) = 0
        OR
        c.address_no is not null

    GO

     

    Then you would set up two criteria elements in t_keyword

    Phone Primary Indicator
    Description = Phone Primary Indicator
    Data Type = String
    Edit Mask = (leave empty)
    Detail Tbl = lvs_phone
    Detail Col = !.primary_ind
    Ref Tbl = tr_gooesoft_dropdown
    Ref Idcol = short_desc
    Ref Desccol = description
    Ref Where = code = 1
    etc.

    and, Phone Type
    Description = Phone Type
    Data Type = Number
    Edit Mask = (leave empty)
    Detail Tbl = lvs_phone
    Detail Col = !.type
    Ref Tbl = vrs_phone_type
    Ref Idcol = id
    Ref Desccol = description
    Ref Where = (leave empty)
    etc.

    Last part is setting up the list using the following criteria in the top box
    Phone Type IN (1,2)
    Phone Primary Indicator DOES NOT HAVE ('Y')

    and this criteria in the bottom (OR) box

    Phone Type DOES NOTE HAVE (1,2)

    Hope that helps,

    Cheers!

  • Ryan,

     

    Thank you for this.  I just finished my first SQL class, so I actually do understand the code (yay me).  I think everything you’ve provided will let me get this set up – if I run into any issues, I’ll give you a shout.

     

    Sean Rector, MCSE

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Rowell
    Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:41 PM
    To: Sean Rector
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] Phone number for list criteria

     

    Hi Sean,

    I'd recommend setting up criteria elements in t_keyword, but first you will need a local view if you want to keep out non-primary phone numbers.

    Here is the view I use, which is basically just the normal vs_phone view with primary_ind added

     

    USE [Impresario]
    GO

    SET ANSI_NULLS OFF
    GO

    SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
    GO

    CREATE View [dbo].[LVS_PHONE]
    AS

    Select    a.*, b.edit_ind, c.primary_ind
    From    t_phone a
        JOIN vrs_phone_type b ON a.type = b.id
        LEFT OUTER JOIN vs_address c ON a.address_no = c.address_no
    Where    ISNULL(a.address_no,0) = 0
        OR
        c.address_no is not null

    GO

     

    Then you would set up two criteria elements in t_keyword

    Phone Primary Indicator
    Description = Phone Primary Indicator
    Data Type = String
    Edit Mask = (leave empty)
    Detail Tbl = lvs_phone
    Detail Col = !.primary_ind
    Ref Tbl = tr_gooesoft_dropdown
    Ref Idcol = short_desc
    Ref Desccol = description
    Ref Where = code = 1
    etc.

    and, Phone Type
    Description = Phone Type
    Data Type = Number
    Edit Mask = (leave empty)
    Detail Tbl = lvs_phone
    Detail Col = !.type
    Ref Tbl = vrs_phone_type
    Ref Idcol = id
    Ref Desccol = description
    Ref Where = (leave empty)
    etc.

    Last part is setting up the list using the following criteria in the top box
    Phone Type IN (1,2)
    Phone Primary Indicator DOES NOT HAVE ('Y')

    and this criteria in the bottom (OR) box

    Phone Type DOES NOTE HAVE (1,2)

    Hope that helps,

    Cheers!

    From: Sean Rector <bounce-seanrector4891@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 12/6/2011 4:08:28 PM

    Part 2 of my How do I do this?

    Ryan Rowell:

    Ah, I just realized that my "Phone Primary Indicator" is custom and that "Phone Type" was added by me as well.
    Christy, does your phone type use vs_phone for the detail table because that doesn't only look at primary numbers.

    Brian, I'll get back to you on how I have the primary indicator set up.

     



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    Ryan,

     

    I’ve set it up as you’ve outlined below – but am experiencing an error when trying to run the List:

     

    SQLSTATE=42000

    Microsoft OLE DB Providor for SQL Server

    The SELECT permission was denied on object 'LVS_PHONE', database 'Impresario', schema 'dbo'.


    I've obviously got something munged in the permissions - I'm guessing on the View?   In the Permissions section of the Properties, there are no users or roles listed.  I've just added ImpUsers - Select permission.  Does that group need any other permissions?


    Sean Rector, MCSE

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Rowell
    Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:41 PM
    To: Sean Rector
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] Phone number for list criteria

     

    Hi Sean,

    I'd recommend setting up criteria elements in t_keyword, but first you will need a local view if you want to keep out non-primary phone numbers.

    Here is the view I use, which is basically just the normal vs_phone view with primary_ind added

     

    USE [Impresario]
    GO

    SET ANSI_NULLS OFF
    GO

    SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
    GO

    CREATE View [dbo].[LVS_PHONE]
    AS

    Select    a.*, b.edit_ind, c.primary_ind
    From    t_phone a
        JOIN vrs_phone_type b ON a.type = b.id
        LEFT OUTER JOIN vs_address c ON a.address_no = c.address_no
    Where    ISNULL(a.address_no,0) = 0
        OR
        c.address_no is not null

    GO

     

    Then you would set up two criteria elements in t_keyword

    Phone Primary Indicator
    Description = Phone Primary Indicator
    Data Type = String
    Edit Mask = (leave empty)
    Detail Tbl = lvs_phone
    Detail Col = !.primary_ind
    Ref Tbl = tr_gooesoft_dropdown
    Ref Idcol = short_desc
    Ref Desccol = description
    Ref Where = code = 1
    etc.

    and, Phone Type
    Description = Phone Type
    Data Type = Number
    Edit Mask = (leave empty)
    Detail Tbl = lvs_phone
    Detail Col = !.type
    Ref Tbl = vrs_phone_type
    Ref Idcol = id
    Ref Desccol = description
    Ref Where = (leave empty)
    etc.

    Last part is setting up the list using the following criteria in the top box
    Phone Type IN (1,2)
    Phone Primary Indicator DOES NOT HAVE ('Y')

    and this criteria in the bottom (OR) box

    Phone Type DOES NOTE HAVE (1,2)

    Hope that helps,

    Cheers!

    From: Sean Rector <bounce-seanrector4891@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 12/6/2011 4:08:28 PM

    Part 2 of my How do I do this?

    Ryan Rowell:

    Ah, I just realized that my "Phone Primary Indicator" is custom and that "Phone Type" was added by me as well.
    Christy, does your phone type use vs_phone for the detail table because that doesn't only look at primary numbers.

    Brian, I'll get back to you on how I have the primary indicator set up.

     



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