"Best Practices" for Soft Bounces

We are reviewing our WordFly integration in relation to handling response codes. I'd like to know how other organizations handle soft bounces.  Do your soft bounces eventually turn into a hard bounce? If so how long do you wait?  Is there anything you specifically do with your soft bounces? I appreciate any discussion or opinions. thanks!!

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  • Thank you Alex. The issue of spam traps is the primary issue we want to avoid.

     

    Randall A. Mitchell
    Director of Information Systems | The Phoenix Symphony | Tel. (602) 452-0440 | Mobile. (602) 796-9323 | Fax. (602) 253-1772
    www.phoenixsymphony.org | 1 N. 1st Street, Ste. 200, Phoenix, Az 85004

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra Barber
    Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 8:15 AM
    To: Randall A. Mitchell
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] "Best Practices" for Soft Bounces

     

    Hi Randall and Jamie,

     

    I noticed a high number of soft bounces a few month back which were attributed to an AOL mail block. That was resolved quickly and we haven’t had any other issues.

     

    To improve inbox deliverability, we have also worked with Wordfly to address 'unknown' soft bounce addresses that bounced consistently for a number consecutive campaigns. An 'unknown' soft bounce address is a response from the ISP that they do not know this address. In a way it's a preemptive warning to the sender that this is going to be a hard bounce later on and many times these addresses are linked to abandoned mailboxes. Typically addresses will bounce as unknown for 6-12 months before they become hard bounces or spam traps.

    We have updated our bounce handling procedure to mark these ‘unknown’ soft bounce addresses after 10 consecutive bounces as a hard bounce.

    Thanks, Alex

     

    Alex Barber
    Digital Marketing Manager

    ROUNDABOUT THEATRE COMPANY

    231 West 39th St. | Suite 1200 | New York, NY 10018

    Phone: 212.719.9393 ext. 317| Fax: 212.869.8817

    alexandrab@roundabouttheatre.org | roundabouttheatre.org

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Jamie O'Brien
    Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:32 AM
    To: Alexandra Barber
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] "Best Practices" for Soft Bounces

     

    Hi Randall - 

     

    My understanding is that a soft bounce means an Out of Office type message and a hard bounce means that the email address isn't valid. I would presume that an Out of Office that's really saying that a person has left a company, etc will eventually turn into a hard bounce. I'm not inclined to pay much attention to soft bounce stats, but know I want to pin down exactly how we treat hard bounces--need to make sure changes to the record will be on the address level rather than simply marking the entire record Do Not Email, etc.

     

    If others have a different read on the soft bounce meaning, I would like to hear if my knowledge has become outdated though.

     

    Jamie


     

     

    JAMIE O'BRIEN

    ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DIGITAL SERVICES

    THE NEW 42ND STREET
    229 W 42ND STREET, NEW YORK, NY 10036
    JOBRIEN@NEW42.ORG
    646.223.3063
    WWW.NEW42.ORG
    Image removed by sender. The New 42nd Street

     

    Image removed by sender.

     

    On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Randall Mitchell <bounce-randallmitchell8646@tessituranetwork.com> wrote:

    We are reviewing our WordFly integration in relation to handling response codes. I'd like to know how other organizations handle soft bounces.  Do your soft bounces eventually turn into a hard bounce? If so how long do you wait?  Is there anything you specifically do with your soft bounces? I appreciate any discussion or opinions. thanks!!




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  • Thank you Alex. The issue of spam traps is the primary issue we want to avoid.

     

    Randall A. Mitchell
    Director of Information Systems | The Phoenix Symphony | Tel. (602) 452-0440 | Mobile. (602) 796-9323 | Fax. (602) 253-1772
    www.phoenixsymphony.org | 1 N. 1st Street, Ste. 200, Phoenix, Az 85004

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Alexandra Barber
    Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 8:15 AM
    To: Randall A. Mitchell
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] "Best Practices" for Soft Bounces

     

    Hi Randall and Jamie,

     

    I noticed a high number of soft bounces a few month back which were attributed to an AOL mail block. That was resolved quickly and we haven’t had any other issues.

     

    To improve inbox deliverability, we have also worked with Wordfly to address 'unknown' soft bounce addresses that bounced consistently for a number consecutive campaigns. An 'unknown' soft bounce address is a response from the ISP that they do not know this address. In a way it's a preemptive warning to the sender that this is going to be a hard bounce later on and many times these addresses are linked to abandoned mailboxes. Typically addresses will bounce as unknown for 6-12 months before they become hard bounces or spam traps.

    We have updated our bounce handling procedure to mark these ‘unknown’ soft bounce addresses after 10 consecutive bounces as a hard bounce.

    Thanks, Alex

     

    Alex Barber
    Digital Marketing Manager

    ROUNDABOUT THEATRE COMPANY

    231 West 39th St. | Suite 1200 | New York, NY 10018

    Phone: 212.719.9393 ext. 317| Fax: 212.869.8817

    alexandrab@roundabouttheatre.org | roundabouttheatre.org

     

    From: Tessitura Marketing Forum [mailto:forums-marketing@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Jamie O'Brien
    Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:32 AM
    To: Alexandra Barber
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Marketing Forum] "Best Practices" for Soft Bounces

     

    Hi Randall - 

     

    My understanding is that a soft bounce means an Out of Office type message and a hard bounce means that the email address isn't valid. I would presume that an Out of Office that's really saying that a person has left a company, etc will eventually turn into a hard bounce. I'm not inclined to pay much attention to soft bounce stats, but know I want to pin down exactly how we treat hard bounces--need to make sure changes to the record will be on the address level rather than simply marking the entire record Do Not Email, etc.

     

    If others have a different read on the soft bounce meaning, I would like to hear if my knowledge has become outdated though.

     

    Jamie


     

     

    JAMIE O'BRIEN

    ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DIGITAL SERVICES

    THE NEW 42ND STREET
    229 W 42ND STREET, NEW YORK, NY 10036
    JOBRIEN@NEW42.ORG
    646.223.3063
    WWW.NEW42.ORG
    Image removed by sender. The New 42nd Street

     

    Image removed by sender.

     

    On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Randall Mitchell <bounce-randallmitchell8646@tessituranetwork.com> wrote:

    We are reviewing our WordFly integration in relation to handling response codes. I'd like to know how other organizations handle soft bounces.  Do your soft bounces eventually turn into a hard bounce? If so how long do you wait?  Is there anything you specifically do with your soft bounces? I appreciate any discussion or opinions. thanks!!




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