Output element-first and last name of A1/A2 of a household

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Does anyone know what output element is needed to get the First Name and Last Name of the A1 and A2 of a Household using an output set? We're having a difficult time isolating and outputting the first and last names of a household. We've tried using advanced list options and replacing the household with the individual accounts, but that's not working because it outputs as two different accounts on two different lines in excel. Too much manual work in excel trying to figure out who's in a household together at that point.

Thanks for any help; it's greatly appreciated.

-Angie Weeks

Tennessee Performing Arts Center

  • I haven’t tried this yet but I saved Lucie’s tip here that should help:

     

    Go to the TR_QUERY_ELEMENT system table. Add a row:

    Description = Customer_sort_name

    Category = Constituent

    Data Select = sort_name

    Data From = Customer

    Data Where = [blank]

    Control Group = (Default Control Group)

    Single Row = [checked box]

    Primary Group Default = [unchecked box]

     

    This gives you the element that sorts by last name the way it appears in the header.

     

    Go to Tools and select Output Set Builder. Choose New Set from the buttons at the bottom of the screen.

     

    Here’s what I’ve added to my query, in the order I have them:

    From the Constituent folder:

                    Salutation_outside_line1

                    Salutation_outside_line2

                    Salutation_business_title

    From the Address Information folder:

                    Address_street3

                    Address_street2

                    Address_street1

                    Address_city

                    Address_state

                    Address_postal_code

                    Address_country_desc

    From the Constitutent folder:

                    Salutation_inside

                    Salutation_sal_type

                    Customer_sort_name

     

    I used to have Customer_lname and Customer_fname, but I don’t think that’s useful anymore. I’ve named my query the eloquent “Mailing-Inside Sal-Sort Name.”

     

    The nice thing about queries is that you can put in what you want, in the order you want them, and they pull that way when you run reports or extractions using them. You get to pick mailing date, mailing purpose, and salutation, just as in User Defined Output from a List. You just can’t have your results auto-sort in various ways.

     

    The only gotcha about using sort name is that deceased people don’t have one—although, for me, that’s actually a plus. If I am running a mailing list, this gives me a quick and easy way to catch patrons who should not be there, because they will be at the top of my list, out of alpha order, when I sort.

     

    Lucie

     

     

     

    _____________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Editor, Season Program Book

    FLORIDA GRAND opera

     

     

    Shelley Salinas

     


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Angie Weeks
    Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:48 PM
    To: Shelley Salinas
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Output element-first and last name of A1/A2 of a household

     

    Does anyone know what output element is needed to get the First Name and Last Name of the A1 and A2 of a Household using an output set? We're having a difficult time isolating and outputting the first and last names of a household. We've tried using advanced list options and replacing the household with the individual accounts, but that's not working because it outputs as two different accounts on two different lines in excel. Too much manual work in excel trying to figure out who's in a household together at that point.

    Thanks for any help; it's greatly appreciated.

    -Angie Weeks

    Tennessee Performing Arts Center




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  • Just make sure you replace the “Data From” from “Customer” to “T_CUSTOMER”!

     

    _____________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Editor, Season Program Book

    FLORIDA GRAND opera
    8390 NW 25th Street
    Miami, FL 33122
    305.854.1643 x. 1521
    Box Office: 800.741.1010
    To Give a Gift: 305.403.3315
    www.FGO.org

    2012-2013 | 72ND SEASON

    La bohème | The Magic Flute | La sonnambula | La traviata

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Shelley Salinas
    Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:24 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Output element-first and last name of A1/A2 of a household

     

    I haven’t tried this yet but I saved Lucie’s tip here that should help:

     

    Go to the TR_QUERY_ELEMENT system table. Add a row:

    Description = Customer_sort_name

    Category = Constituent

    Data Select = sort_name

    Data From = Customer

    Data Where = [blank]

    Control Group = (Default Control Group)

    Single Row = [checked box]

    Primary Group Default = [unchecked box]

     

    This gives you the element that sorts by last name the way it appears in the header.

     

    Go to Tools and select Output Set Builder. Choose New Set from the buttons at the bottom of the screen.

     

    Here’s what I’ve added to my query, in the order I have them:

    From the Constituent folder:

                    Salutation_outside_line1

                    Salutation_outside_line2

                    Salutation_business_title

    From the Address Information folder:

                    Address_street3

                    Address_street2

                    Address_street1

                    Address_city

                    Address_state

                    Address_postal_code

                    Address_country_desc

    From the Constitutent folder:

                    Salutation_inside

                    Salutation_sal_type

                    Customer_sort_name

     

    I used to have Customer_lname and Customer_fname, but I don’t think that’s useful anymore. I’ve named my query the eloquent “Mailing-Inside Sal-Sort Name.”

     

    The nice thing about queries is that you can put in what you want, in the order you want them, and they pull that way when you run reports or extractions using them. You get to pick mailing date, mailing purpose, and salutation, just as in User Defined Output from a List. You just can’t have your results auto-sort in various ways.

     

    The only gotcha about using sort name is that deceased people don’t have one—although, for me, that’s actually a plus. If I am running a mailing list, this gives me a quick and easy way to catch patrons who should not be there, because they will be at the top of my list, out of alpha order, when I sort.

     

    Lucie

     

     

     

    _____________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Editor, Season Program Book

    FLORIDA GRAND opera

     

     

    Shelley Salinas

     


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Angie Weeks
    Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:48 PM
    To: Shelley Salinas
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Output element-first and last name of A1/A2 of a household

     

    Does anyone know what output element is needed to get the First Name and Last Name of the A1 and A2 of a Household using an output set? We're having a difficult time isolating and outputting the first and last names of a household. We've tried using advanced list options and replacing the household with the individual accounts, but that's not working because it outputs as two different accounts on two different lines in excel. Too much manual work in excel trying to figure out who's in a household together at that point.

    Thanks for any help; it's greatly appreciated.

    -Angie Weeks

    Tennessee Performing Arts Center




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  • Thanks for the heads up, can’t wait to try this

     

    Shelley Salinas

     


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Spieler
    Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:44 PM
    To: Shelley Salinas
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Output element-first and last name of A1/A2 of a household

     

    Just make sure you replace the “Data From” from “Customer” to “T_CUSTOMER”!

     

    _____________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Editor, Season Program Book

    FLORIDA GRAND opera
    8390 NW 25th Street
    Miami, FL 33122
    305.854.1643 x. 1521
    Box Office: 800.741.1010
    To Give a Gift: 305.403.3315
    www.FGO.org

    2012-2013 | 72ND SEASON

    La bohème | The Magic Flute | La sonnambula | La traviata

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Shelley Salinas
    Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:24 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Output element-first and last name of A1/A2 of a household

     

    I haven’t tried this yet but I saved Lucie’s tip here that should help:

     

    Go to the TR_QUERY_ELEMENT system table. Add a row:

    Description = Customer_sort_name

    Category = Constituent

    Data Select = sort_name

    Data From = Customer

    Data Where = [blank]

    Control Group = (Default Control Group)

    Single Row = [checked box]

    Primary Group Default = [unchecked box]

     

    This gives you the element that sorts by last name the way it appears in the header.

     

    Go to Tools and select Output Set Builder. Choose New Set from the buttons at the bottom of the screen.

     

    Here’s what I’ve added to my query, in the order I have them:

    From the Constituent folder:

                    Salutation_outside_line1

                    Salutation_outside_line2

                    Salutation_business_title

    From the Address Information folder:

                    Address_street3

                    Address_street2

                    Address_street1

                    Address_city

                    Address_state

                    Address_postal_code

                    Address_country_desc

    From the Constitutent folder:

                    Salutation_inside

                    Salutation_sal_type

                    Customer_sort_name

     

    I used to have Customer_lname and Customer_fname, but I don’t think that’s useful anymore. I’ve named my query the eloquent “Mailing-Inside Sal-Sort Name.”

     

    The nice thing about queries is that you can put in what you want, in the order you want them, and they pull that way when you run reports or extractions using them. You get to pick mailing date, mailing purpose, and salutation, just as in User Defined Output from a List. You just can’t have your results auto-sort in various ways.

     

    The only gotcha about using sort name is that deceased people don’t have one—although, for me, that’s actually a plus. If I am running a mailing list, this gives me a quick and easy way to catch patrons who should not be there, because they will be at the top of my list, out of alpha order, when I sort.

     

    Lucie

     

     

     

    _____________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Editor, Season Program Book

    FLORIDA GRAND opera

     

     

    Shelley Salinas

     


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Angie Weeks
    Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:48 PM
    To: Shelley Salinas
    Subject: [Tessitura Development Forum] Output element-first and last name of A1/A2 of a household

     

    Does anyone know what output element is needed to get the First Name and Last Name of the A1 and A2 of a Household using an output set? We're having a difficult time isolating and outputting the first and last names of a household. We've tried using advanced list options and replacing the household with the individual accounts, but that's not working because it outputs as two different accounts on two different lines in excel. Too much manual work in excel trying to figure out who's in a household together at that point.

    Thanks for any help; it's greatly appreciated.

    -Angie Weeks

    Tennessee Performing Arts Center




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  • Lucie, 

    Is this the correct format? I've seen it two ways now. 

    Go to the TR_QUERY_ELEMENT system table. Add a row:

    Description = Customer_sort_name

    Category = Constituent

    Data Select = sort_name

    Data From = Customer

    Data Where = [blank]

    Control Group = (Default Control Group)

    Single Row = [checked box]

    Primary Group Default = [unchecked box]

     

    or 

    Description         Customer_Sortname

    Category              Constituent

    Data_select        !.sort_name

    Data_from          t_customer

    Data_where       empty

    Control_group  [apply one if necessary]

    Single_row         checked

    Primary_group_default                unchecked

  • Hi, Adria:

     

    Both ways work. The first (using Customer rather than T_CUSTOMER) is more Tessitura-idiomatic, so that’s the one I’d use.

     

    Lucie

     

    ______________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Florida Grand Opera

  • Thanks Lucie. I thought I saw a problem with running extractions when using one over the other so I changed it to !.sort_name. If it's okay I'll leave it. 

    Since I have your attention. I was wondering if you knew about pulling an output set for confirmation letters. I have been working now for over a week on having Lynch2 design an output set that I can pull into a merge document for my subscription confirmations. The info I need is performance name, venue, day, date, time and seats.  
    The output set I have right now pulls thirty one lines at random for people that cross over sections/zones in our houses. It makes for a lot of cutting and pasting for about two hundred people and the letters go out Tuesday. What do you guys use? Any advice or suggestions. 

    Thanks.

    On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Lucie Spieler <bounce-luciespieler8144@tessituranetwork.com> wrote:

    Hi, Adria:

     

    Both ways work. The first (using Customer rather than T_CUSTOMER) is more Tessitura-idiomatic, so that’s the one I’d use.

     

    Lucie

     

    ______________________________
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager

    Florida Grand Opera



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