Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

Former Member
Former Member $organization

Hi All,

How can we make 'Lapsed' memberships 'Active' again for those with multi-year memberships?

We have a few multi-year memberships that may have been extended manually (manipulating the expiration dates) during their Lapsed status.  These memberships should be Active now and no longer Lapsed.  The Membership Update Utility Report moves Lapsed to Inactive but not from Lapsed to Active.

How is best to change their status? Should we deactivate and add a new membership? 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Beth Ann

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  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Christian Mauri

    Thanks Christian.  I was afraid of this. Time to address our membership set up rules, I suppose.   

    Thanks again for your reply,

    Beth Ann

     

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:15 PM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Beth,

    Tessitura considers lapsed as still active. It is a grace period if you will. They still show up in list builder when you look for current memberships etc... Without changing the rules in your membership table setup, there is no way to put them back to active.

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher <bounce-bethannmencher8383@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 6/11/2009 5:56:01 PM

    Hi All,

    How can we make 'Lapsed' memberships 'Active' again for those with multi-year memberships?

    We have a few multi-year memberships that may have been extended manually (manipulating the expiration dates) during their Lapsed status.  These memberships should be Active now and no longer Lapsed.  The Membership Update Utility Report moves Lapsed to Inactive but not from Lapsed to Active.

    How is best to change their status? Should we deactivate and add a new membership? 

    Thanks in advance for your help,

    Beth Ann




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  • Someone with sql access can edit the TX_CUST_MEMBERSHIP table through the back end, but you should test, test, test, and be very careful that you know what you're updating.

    I've done this when a membership has been deactivated in error and then a renewal received, to change the membership from deactivated to inactive and then link the new membership to the un-deactivated one and mark it as a renewal, increase, upgrade, whatever. (I put a note in the membership to explain my meddling.)

    So, you could change the expiration dates and status using a sql query.

    --to see an affected membership:
    select * from tx_cust_membership
    where memb_org_no=1 --choose correct membership organization here
    and customer_no = #######

    --to change status and expiration date:
    update tx_cust_membership
    set current_status = 2, --active
    expr_dt = '2010-12-31 23:59:59.000', --pick your future expiration date here
    notes = 'Manually activated and extended membership [date] [initials]'
    where customer_no = #######
    and memb_org_no=1 --choose correct membership organization here
    and current_status=7 --lapsed
    and cust_memb_no = ##### --choose correct row with this parameter

    /***
    select * from tr_current_status

    1 Inactive
    2 Active
    3 Pending
    4 Awaiting Payment
    5 Suspended
    6 Cancelled
    7 Lapsed
    8 Deactivated
    9 Merged

    ***/

    ================================
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager
    Editor, Season Program
    Florida Grand Opera
    ---------------------------
    8390 NW 25th Street
    Miami, FL 33122-1504

    305-854-1643 x.1521 phone
    305-856-1042 fax
    800-741-1010 ticket office
    lspieler@fgo.org
    www.fgo.org

    P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.

    ________________________________

    From: Tessitura Development Forum on behalf of Beth Ann Mencher
    Sent: Thu 6/11/2009 7:39 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active



    Thanks Christian. I was afraid of this. Time to address our membership set up rules, I suppose.

    Thanks again for your reply,

    Beth Ann





    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:15 PM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active



    Beth,

    Tessitura considers lapsed as still active. It is a grace period if you will. They still show up in list builder when you look for current memberships etc... Without changing the rules in your membership table setup, there is no way to put them back to active.

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher
    Sent: 6/11/2009 5:56:01 PM

    Hi All,

    How can we make 'Lapsed' memberships 'Active' again for those with multi-year memberships?

    We have a few multi-year memberships that may have been extended manually (manipulating the expiration dates) during their Lapsed status. These memberships should be Active now and no longer Lapsed. The Membership Update Utility Report moves Lapsed to Inactive but not from Lapsed to Active.

    How is best to change their status? Should we deactivate and add a new membership?

    Thanks in advance for your help,

    Beth Ann




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  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Lucie Spieler
    Thanks very much for this Lucie! I am the one with the SQL access although I am a novice. I will absolutely test this and greatly appreciate your extending the script. We have a more than few of these lapsed confused accounts so if this works it would help us immensely. I will let you know how it works out!
    Thanks again,
    Beth Ann

    ________________________________________
    From: Tessitura Development Forum [forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Spieler [bounce-luciespieler8144@tessituranetwork.com]
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:59 PM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

    Someone with sql access can edit the TX_CUST_MEMBERSHIP table through the back end, but you should test, test, test, and be very careful that you know what you're updating.

    I've done this when a membership has been deactivated in error and then a renewal received, to change the membership from deactivated to inactive and then link the new membership to the un-deactivated one and mark it as a renewal, increase, upgrade, whatever. (I put a note in the membership to explain my meddling.)

    So, you could change the expiration dates and status using a sql query.

    --to see an affected membership:
    select * from tx_cust_membership
    where memb_org_no=1 --choose correct membership organization here
    and customer_no = #######

    --to change status and expiration date:
    update tx_cust_membership
    set current_status = 2, --active
    expr_dt = '2010-12-31 23:59:59.000', --pick your future expiration date here
    notes = 'Manually activated and extended membership [date] [initials]'
    where customer_no = #######
    and memb_org_no=1 --choose correct membership organization here
    and current_status=7 --lapsed
    and cust_memb_no = ##### --choose correct row with this parameter

    /***
    select * from tr_current_status

    1 Inactive
    2 Active
    3 Pending
    4 Awaiting Payment
    5 Suspended
    6 Cancelled
    7 Lapsed
    8 Deactivated
    9 Merged

    ***/

    ================================
    Lucie Spieler
    IT Development and Training Manager
    Editor, Season Program
    Florida Grand Opera
    ---------------------------
    8390 NW 25th Street
    Miami, FL 33122-1504

    305-854-1643 x.1521 phone
    305-856-1042 fax
    800-741-1010 ticket office
    lspieler@fgo.org
    www.fgo.org

    P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.

    ________________________________

    From: Tessitura Development Forum on behalf of Beth Ann Mencher
    Sent: Thu 6/11/2009 7:39 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active



    Thanks Christian. I was afraid of this. Time to address our membership set up rules, I suppose.

    Thanks again for your reply,

    Beth Ann





    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:15 PM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active



    Beth,

    Tessitura considers lapsed as still active. It is a grace period if you will. They still show up in list builder when you look for current memberships etc... Without changing the rules in your membership table setup, there is no way to put them back to active.

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher
    Sent: 6/11/2009 5:56:01 PM

    Hi All,

    How can we make 'Lapsed' memberships 'Active' again for those with multi-year memberships?

    We have a few multi-year memberships that may have been extended manually (manipulating the expiration dates) during their Lapsed status. These memberships should be Active now and no longer Lapsed. The Membership Update Utility Report moves Lapsed to Inactive but not from Lapsed to Active.

    How is best to change their status? Should we deactivate and add a new membership?

    Thanks in advance for your help,

    Beth Ann




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  • Beth Ann,

    You could do what Lucy suggested and update the tables manually, but be careful. When I was just learning, I accidentally changed all the program names to 1 name. Luckily it was the test database. hehe

     

    Christian

  • Good point, Christian. I try to protect myself by being very, very specific in my update criteria—never with less than two descriptions of the data line(s) I want—and to select the data with the criteria I will use for the update and to look at it thoroughly before clicking the Execute button for the update.

     

    Lucie

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:22 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] RE: Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Beth Ann,

    You could do what Lucy suggested and update the tables manually, but be careful. When I was just learning, I accidentally changed all the program names to 1 name. Luckily it was the test database. hehe

     

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher <bounce-bethannmencher8383@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 6/11/2009 6:36:24 PM

    Thanks Christian.  I was afraid of this. Time to address our membership set up rules, I suppose.   

    Thanks again for your reply,

    Beth Ann

     

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:15 PM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Beth,

    Tessitura considers lapsed as still active. It is a grace period if you will. They still show up in list builder when you look for current memberships etc... Without changing the rules in your membership table setup, there is no way to put them back to active.

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher <bounce-bethannmencher8383@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 6/11/2009 5:56:01 PM

    Hi All,

    How can we make 'Lapsed' memberships 'Active' again for those with multi-year memberships?

    We have a few multi-year memberships that may have been extended manually (manipulating the expiration dates) during their Lapsed status.  These memberships should be Active now and no longer Lapsed.  The Membership Update Utility Report moves Lapsed to Inactive but not from Lapsed to Active.

    How is best to change their status? Should we deactivate and add a new membership? 

    Thanks in advance for your help,

    Beth Ann




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  • …and, particularly if it’s the first time I’ve done something, I save the specific query so that if I have to undo it later, I can figure out what I did…

     

    Lucie

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Spieler
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:27 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] RE: Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Good point, Christian. I try to protect myself by being very, very specific in my update criteria—never with less than two descriptions of the data line(s) I want—and to select the data with the criteria I will use for the update and to look at it thoroughly before clicking the Execute button for the update.

     

    Lucie

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:22 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] RE: Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Beth Ann,

    You could do what Lucy suggested and update the tables manually, but be careful. When I was just learning, I accidentally changed all the program names to 1 name. Luckily it was the test database. hehe

     

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher <bounce-bethannmencher8383@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 6/11/2009 6:36:24 PM

    Thanks Christian.  I was afraid of this. Time to address our membership set up rules, I suppose.   

    Thanks again for your reply,

    Beth Ann

     

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:15 PM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Beth,

    Tessitura considers lapsed as still active. It is a grace period if you will. They still show up in list builder when you look for current memberships etc... Without changing the rules in your membership table setup, there is no way to put them back to active.

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher <bounce-bethannmencher8383@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 6/11/2009 5:56:01 PM

    Hi All,

    How can we make 'Lapsed' memberships 'Active' again for those with multi-year memberships?

    We have a few multi-year memberships that may have been extended manually (manipulating the expiration dates) during their Lapsed status.  These memberships should be Active now and no longer Lapsed.  The Membership Update Utility Report moves Lapsed to Inactive but not from Lapsed to Active.

    How is best to change their status? Should we deactivate and add a new membership? 

    Thanks in advance for your help,

    Beth Ann




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  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Lucie Spieler

    Thanks Lucie and Christian!  I will tread with extreme caution J

    ~Beth Ann

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Spieler
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:37 AM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] RE: Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    …and, particularly if it’s the first time I’ve done something, I save the specific query so that if I have to undo it later, I can figure out what I did…

     

    Lucie

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Spieler
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:27 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: RE: [Tessitura Development Forum] RE: Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Good point, Christian. I try to protect myself by being very, very specific in my update criteria—never with less than two descriptions of the data line(s) I want—and to select the data with the criteria I will use for the update and to look at it thoroughly before clicking the Execute button for the update.

     

    Lucie

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:22 PM
    To: Lucie Spieler
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] RE: Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Beth Ann,

    You could do what Lucy suggested and update the tables manually, but be careful. When I was just learning, I accidentally changed all the program names to 1 name. Luckily it was the test database. hehe

     

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher <bounce-bethannmencher8383@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 6/11/2009 6:36:24 PM

    Thanks Christian.  I was afraid of this. Time to address our membership set up rules, I suppose.   

    Thanks again for your reply,

    Beth Ann

     

     

    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 4:15 PM
    To: Beth Ann Mencher
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Lapsed Memberships becoming Active

     

    Beth,

    Tessitura considers lapsed as still active. It is a grace period if you will. They still show up in list builder when you look for current memberships etc... Without changing the rules in your membership table setup, there is no way to put them back to active.

    Christian

    From: Beth Ann Mencher <bounce-bethannmencher8383@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 6/11/2009 5:56:01 PM

    Hi All,

    How can we make 'Lapsed' memberships 'Active' again for those with multi-year memberships?

    We have a few multi-year memberships that may have been extended manually (manipulating the expiration dates) during their Lapsed status.  These memberships should be Active now and no longer Lapsed.  The Membership Update Utility Report moves Lapsed to Inactive but not from Lapsed to Active.

    How is best to change their status? Should we deactivate and add a new membership? 

    Thanks in advance for your help,

    Beth Ann




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