Acknowledgement Letters: IRS Non Deductible Amnt

How do you include the non deductible amount for a donor's membership level rather than their individual gift in an acknowledgement letter?

For example:

Donor A gives $25 on 4/20, & now has a membership of only $25 which isn't enough to have any perks that are non-deductible. Therefore the non deductible amount is $0 - no problem generating this letter. (using the "goods_services_value" field in the acknowledgement letter report exported into excel)

However....

Donor B gives $25 on 4/20, & now has a membership level of $250 which comes with non-deductible items such as beverages, comp tickets, etc. So now the non deductible amount relies on their collective giving as oppossed to their one-time gift that is mentioned in the letter.

How have other's included non-deductible amounts from memberships in their thank you letters? Is it enough to have the amount broken down on an attached membership perks card? Is this in sync with IRS guidelines?

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  • Hey, I'm across the way and would be happy to help you out. I think you may have it backwards. Usually the donor makes a donation, say $250 and part of the donation is for non-deductible items such as beverages etc... There is a field in the membership table that allows you to put in the amount that is not deductible. Then when the ack letter is run, you can tell it to say your tax deductible amouny is cont_amt - good_service_value.

    If a second donation comes in, depending on your membership rules, the membership will upgrade or increase in value. The ack letter will only reflect the second payment.

     

    Christian

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  • Hey, I'm across the way and would be happy to help you out. I think you may have it backwards. Usually the donor makes a donation, say $250 and part of the donation is for non-deductible items such as beverages etc... There is a field in the membership table that allows you to put in the amount that is not deductible. Then when the ack letter is run, you can tell it to say your tax deductible amouny is cont_amt - good_service_value.

    If a second donation comes in, depending on your membership rules, the membership will upgrade or increase in value. The ack letter will only reflect the second payment.

     

    Christian

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  • Actually, the goods_services_value field in the acknowledgement report is a calculated field from goods and services value from the membership level (as specified in the membership setup) PLUS the prem1_amt through prem5_amt .
     
    I am not really sure how to understand Sarah's question. but we ran into the following issue:
     
    Donor had a $300 membership with a $67 goods and services value
    the receipt that goes out for this contribution is correct
     
    Then donor gives another $200, upgrading him/her to the next membership level for $119 goods and services.
    Here the receipt is wrong, as the goods and services for the second contribution are actually only $52 (the difference).
     
    We worked with the Tessi Network to add fields to the acknowledgement report to take care of that.....
     
     
    Monika
     
    Monika Jouvert
    Brooklyn Academy of Music
    Development Business Process Director
    718.623.7810 x6 / internally x4253
     


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:45 PM
    To: Monika Jouvert
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Acknowledgement Letters: IRS Non Deductible Amnt

    Hey, I'm across the way and would be happy to help you out. I think you may have it backwards. Usually the donor makes a donation, say $250 and part of the donation is for non-deductible items such as beverages etc... There is a field in the membership table that allows you to put in the amount that is not deductible. Then when the ack letter is run, you can tell it to say your tax deductible amouny is cont_amt - good_service_value.

    If a second donation comes in, depending on your membership rules, the membership will upgrade or increase in value. The ack letter will only reflect the second payment.

     

    Christian

    From: Sarah Parker <bounce-sarahparker9580@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 4/20/2009 2:31:38 PM

    How do you include the non deductible amount for a donor's membership level rather than their individual gift in an acknowledgement letter?

    For example:

    Donor A gives $25 on 4/20, & now has a membership of only $25 which isn't enough to have any perks that are non-deductible. Therefore the non deductible amount is $0 - no problem generating this letter. (using the "goods_services_value" field in the acknowledgement letter report exported into excel)

    However....

    Donor B gives $25 on 4/20, & now has a membership level of $250 which comes with non-deductible items such as beverages, comp tickets, etc. So now the non deductible amount relies on their collective giving as oppossed to their one-time gift that is mentioned in the letter.

    How have other's included non-deductible amounts from memberships in their thank you letters? Is it enough to have the amount broken down on an attached membership perks card? Is this in sync with IRS guidelines?




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  • Thank you Christain - sorry for the delayed response! I'd really appreciate that (if offer still stands) anytime you're available. We're reinventing/improving upon our acknowledgement / memberships / premiums & how they correspond with eachother for letters and it would be soooo helpful to have a Kid Genius in the area.

  • Monika, I am also working with this issue right now. We populated the goods and services values into benefits and then added that field in our ack letters, but it wasn't until recently that I noticed it is pulling the accumulated benefits, not the benefit value of just that particular gift. We have several multi gifts per year people, and that obviously has the potential to move them up to the next tier of membership(different benefit value)  What did you work out with tessitura that worked for you? This seems like it would be an issue for all orgs that provide non tax deductable benefits to their patrons...

    Heather L. Hoyt
    Development Coordinator
    Omaha Symphony
    1605 Howard Street
    Omaha, NE 68102
    tel: 402.342.3836 x125
    fax: 402.342.3819
  • We had the brilliant Cindy Emig add a new field into the acknowledgment report for us "Goods and Services value for previous membership". AND another field indicating if this membership has more than one contribution attached to it.
     
    so in the word merge I use the logic
    IF this is a second or third contribution to the membership, AND the goods and services value is now higher than before, I only list the DIFFERENCE between last value and current value on the receipt.
     
    again in my sample from before:
     
    Donor had a $300 membership with a $67 goods and services value
    the receipt that goes out for this contribution is correct
    Then donor gives another $200, upgrading him/her to the next membership level for $119 goods and services.
    Here the receipt is wrong, as the goods and services for the second contribution are actually only $52 (the difference).
     
    receipt says thanks for your $200, goods and services for this contribution are $52.
     
    let me know if I should explain this more.
     
    Monika
     
    Monika Jouvert
    Brooklyn Academy of Music
    Development Business Process Director
    718.623.7810 x6 / internally x4253
     


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Heather Hoyt
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:32 AM
    To: Monika Jouvert
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] RE: Acknowledgement Letters: IRS Non Deductible Amnt

    Monika, I am also working with this issue right now. We populated the goods and services values into benefits and then added that field in our ack letters, but it wasn't until recently that I noticed it is pulling the accumulated benefits, not the benefit value of just that particular gift. We have several multi gifts per year people, and that obviously has the potential to move them up to the next tier of membership(different benefit value)  What did you work out with tessitura that worked for you? This seems like it would be an issue for all orgs that provide non tax deductable benefits to their patrons...

    Heather L. Hoyt
    Development Coordinator
    Omaha Symphony
    1605 Howard Street
    Omaha, NE 68102
    tel: 402.342.3836 x125
    fax: 402.342.3819

    From: Monika Jouvert <bounce-monikajouvert7203@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 4/22/2009 2:03:30 PM

    Actually, the goods_services_value field in the acknowledgement report is a calculated field from goods and services value from the membership level (as specified in the membership setup) PLUS the prem1_amt through prem5_amt .
     
    I am not really sure how to understand Sarah's question. but we ran into the following issue:
     
    Donor had a $300 membership with a $67 goods and services value
    the receipt that goes out for this contribution is correct
     
    Then donor gives another $200, upgrading him/her to the next membership level for $119 goods and services.
    Here the receipt is wrong, as the goods and services for the second contribution are actually only $52 (the difference).
     
    We worked with the Tessi Network to add fields to the acknowledgement report to take care of that.....
     
     
    Monika
     
    Monika Jouvert
    Brooklyn Academy of Music
    Development Business Process Director
    718.623.7810 x6 / internally x4253
     


    From: Tessitura Development Forum [mailto:forums-development@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Christian Mauri
    Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:45 PM
    To: Monika Jouvert
    Subject: Re: [Tessitura Development Forum] Acknowledgement Letters: IRS Non Deductible Amnt

    Hey, I'm across the way and would be happy to help you out. I think you may have it backwards. Usually the donor makes a donation, say $250 and part of the donation is for non-deductible items such as beverages etc... There is a field in the membership table that allows you to put in the amount that is not deductible. Then when the ack letter is run, you can tell it to say your tax deductible amouny is cont_amt - good_service_value.

    If a second donation comes in, depending on your membership rules, the membership will upgrade or increase in value. The ack letter will only reflect the second payment.

     

    Christian

    From: Sarah Parker <bounce-sarahparker9580@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 4/20/2009 2:31:38 PM

    How do you include the non deductible amount for a donor's membership level rather than their individual gift in an acknowledgement letter?

    For example:

    Donor A gives $25 on 4/20, & now has a membership of only $25 which isn't enough to have any perks that are non-deductible. Therefore the non deductible amount is $0 - no problem generating this letter. (using the "goods_services_value" field in the acknowledgement letter report exported into excel)

    However....

    Donor B gives $25 on 4/20, & now has a membership level of $250 which comes with non-deductible items such as beverages, comp tickets, etc. So now the non deductible amount relies on their collective giving as oppossed to their one-time gift that is mentioned in the letter.

    How have other's included non-deductible amounts from memberships in their thank you letters? Is it enough to have the amount broken down on an attached membership perks card? Is this in sync with IRS guidelines?




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