GST on fees

Former Member
Former Member $organization

Hi there

Just wondering if anyone has figured out a way of breaking out the GST component of fees in Tessitura? Or is everyone calculating this outside of the application?

Many thanks

Emma

  • Hi Emma,

    Good day.

    it depends on the price map setup.

    if you have different GL code link to GST on fees, then you can break down the detail inside Tessitura.

    SELECT     TOP (1000) a.detail_sli_no, a.sli_no, b.order_no, o.customer_no, b.perf_no, b.sli_status,
    a.due_amt, a.paid_amt, a.pmap_no, c.gl_hold_no, b.price_type,
    f.description AS price_type_description, f.price_type_category,
    d.description AS PRICE_TYPE_CATEGORY_description, c.price_category,
    e.description AS price_category_description
    FROM         T_SLI_DETAIL AS a INNER JOIN
    T_SUB_LINEITEM AS b ON a.sli_no = b.sli_no INNER JOIN
    T_PMAP AS c ON a.pmap_no = c.pmap_no INNER JOIN
    TR_PRICE_TYPE AS f ON b.price_type = f.id INNER JOIN
    TR_PRICE_TYPE_CATEGORY AS d ON f.price_type_category = d.id INNER JOIN
    T_ORDER AS o ON b.order_no = o.order_no INNER JOIN
    TR_PRICE_CATEGORY AS e ON c.price_category = e.id

    T_sli_detail table is the key table, it links to t_pmap table to pick up GL code.

    and also it links back to t_sub_lineitem table to get Tessitura performacne level info.

    have fun

    Ben

  • We charge GST on our inside fees - and have it set up as a price map inside the facility and then applied to each price type within the performance.

  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to Ben Gu

    Thanks Ben! Am attempting to understand all of this......I will have fun indeed :)

  • Former Member
    Former Member $organization in reply to David Geoffrey Hall

    Thanks David. I should have been more specific......it's actually for delivery fees that are being used online. I'll get there :)

  • Hi Emma,

    Good day.

    The delivery fees are sitting at order level.

    It is located at t_order table. but I don't think you can break down to the details.

    What you can do is getting the actual fee amount. t_order table links to t_transaction table, in t_tranasction table has a field called fee_no. you can start Mathematics from there.

    Please beware of the transaction_no in t_order table can be overwritten if the order has multiple transactions.

    SELECT     TOP (100) T_ORDER.order_no, T_ORDER.customer_no, T_ORDER.solicitor, T_ORDER.created_by, T_ORDER.create_dt, T_ORDER.tot_fee_amt,
    T_ORDER.tot_fee_paid_amt, T_ORDER.tot_paid_amt, T_ORDER.transaction_no, T_ORDER.delivery, T_TRANSACTION.fee_no, T_FEE.description AS fee_description,
    T_TRANSACTION.trn_type, TR_TRANSACTION_TYPE.description AS transaction_type_description, T_TRANSACTION.trn_amt, T_TRANSACTION.ref_no,
    T_FEE.fee_gl_no, T_FEE.fiscal_year
    FROM         T_ORDER INNER JOIN
    T_TRANSACTION ON T_ORDER.order_no = T_TRANSACTION.order_no INNER JOIN
    T_FEE ON T_TRANSACTION.fee_no = T_FEE.fee_no INNER JOIN
    TR_TRANSACTION_TYPE ON T_TRANSACTION.trn_type = TR_TRANSACTION_TYPE.id
    WHERE     (T_ORDER.tot_fee_amt >0)

     

    Cheers.

    Ben

  • Hi Emma,
     
    We do price maps on inside fees too, but if you are refering to Fees with a capital F, then these only accept a single GL code and so you have to deal with it outside of Tessitura.  At both MTC and MSO we customised our GL posting report in such a way that our respective Finance systems would identify the GL code attached to the Fee as a GST inclusive amout and break the Fee out accordingly for the BAS.  It works fine, but you have to remember that if you are running any Fee reports out of Tessitura then the figures include GST.
     
    Cheers
    Dale


    From: Australia and New Zealand Tessitura Users on behalf of Emma Carter
    Sent: Mon 08/04/2013 1:09 PM
    To: Dale Bradbury
    Subject: [Australia and New Zealand Tessitura Users] GST on fees

    Hi there

    Just wondering if anyone has figured out a way of breaking out the GST component of fees in Tessitura? Or is everyone calculating this outside of the application?

    Many thanks

    Emma




  • Hi Emma

     

    With Booking/Delivery Fees I have seen a couple of ways that GST is handled. One is the GL code used for the fees is flagged in the Finance system as being GST inclusive and it is managed that way. The other is setting up the fees as GST exclusive and that goes to the Fee GL. Then there is a 2nd component for each of the fees that is the GST and goes to the GST GL.

     

    On the website it works for TNEW (and I’m sure can work for custom site) as you can opt to combine the fees so the customer doesn’t see the 2 of them.

     

    Hope that helps

    S.

     

    From: Australia and New Zealand Tessitura Users [mailto:groups-aunz@tessituranetwork.com] On Behalf Of Emma Carter
    Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2013 7:37 AM
    To: Sandra Ashby
    Subject: Re: [Australia and New Zealand Tessitura Users] GST on fees

     

    Thanks David. I should have been more specific......it's actually for delivery fees that are being used online. I'll get there :)

    From: David Geoffrey Hall <bounce-davidgeoffreyhall6570@tessituranetwork.com>
    Sent: 4/7/2013 11:30:09 PM

    We charge GST on our inside fees - and have it set up as a price map inside the facility and then applied to each price type within the performance.



  • Perhaps this is the wrong thread - so my apologies if that's the case.

    I'm trying to find the general principles of recording/calculating GST within Tessitura - this is so that we can display it on receipts and email confirmations.  Is this generally held as a specific price map?  In an earlier thread (when I was at a previous organisation), I got a reply that the most likely solution was to have a local SP to do this that could be triggered by the ExecuteLocalProcedure method.

    Does anyone have a solution to this I could beg/borrow/steal?

    Martin